Hi friends, this is a special episode dedicated to sharing a powerful somatic tool and practice with you: centering. 

Centering was created by the founder of The Strozzi Institute, Richard Strozzi-Heckler Phd who brings together 5 decades of studies in eastern and western medicine and healing to his work. Centering is a somatic practice to be present, open, connected to what matters most - it begs us to awaken from the trance of life and access our embodied imagination and build capacity and welcome whatever arises. 

Timestamps: 

Introduction, attribution and lineage: 0:00:-5:46:

Centering practice: 5:46-16:36

16:37: debriefing and application of this practice

Length: our length, from toes to head and up the spine, represents our dignity. Our dignity is not something we have to earn or effort for, it's something we are born with. 

Width: our width from the edges of our bodies, from left food to right foot, represents our belonging. Centering in our width also invites us to consider our collective belonging. 

Depth: The third dimension we center in is our depth, or our safety. Our depth is found in the belly, the pelvic region and sacrum. Feel into and even visualize all the systems in place within your body that keep you safe.

Back body: your back body, found in your shoulder blades, sacrum, heels represents your history, and all of those who have shaped, loved, informed your journey. Your back body also holds the former versions of yourself and you can presence everyone you love behind you. 

Front body: your front body represents your present and all that you long to move towards. 

Throughout this centering practice, notice the sensations, emotions, thoughts, images, memories or thoughts that arise through you.

Leading from center opens a doorway to the realms of intuition, perception and expression. 

As you get experience being led through the center, ask yourself what is possible if you are able to return to your dignity line, belonging and safety throughout the day? How would your actions and experiences shift? 

If you are a leader, business owner, entrepreneur looking to deepen your leadership capacity, step into embodied leadership for the sake of what is most important to you - schedule time with me at www.elisamaryhaggarty.com

This episode explores the impact and art of improv and play in the workplace. David Westerlund brings his zone of genius to The School of Unlearning podcast and provides insights on the tenets of applied improv and invites listeners into 5 improv games. This episode is great for leaders of teams who wish to create more play and connection in their teams and helps debunk the myths surrounding productivity and play. 

Watch on Youtube!

Books referenced: 

"Improvisation: The Drama of Christian Ethics" by Sam Wells 

"Play Date Deck" by Sara McMahon

Improv Games Played: 

1. Bumper sticker

2. Don't get me started: ranting or raving

3. I couldn't have done it without you

4. Remember when: act as if we have a shared memory, ”remember when…"

5. 7 things

David delights in supporting leaders who want to intentionally learn, grow, and develop and want the same for their teams. Who are we being invited to be and become in order to collectively face the complex challenges in front of us? is the question that enlivens his own growth and his work with clients. He finds joy in designing and facilitating highly-interactive retreats that weave together connection, play, and transformative learning for leaders and teams who want to thrive. David’s work as an executive coach, learning designer, and facilitator has led him to work with teams in health care, business, nonprofits, government, and schools locally, nationally, and globally. He’s called Bellingham, Washington his home for 20 years and finds delight in walking in the Arboretum, Saturday breakfasts at Old Town Cafe, and visiting his daughter in NYC where they delight in improvising their way through the day. His website is: https://davidwesterlund.com/

Elisa Haggarty is a Conscious Leadership Coach who works with executives and teams to shift the way people relate and collaborate through radical responsibility, curiosity and emotional intelligence. You can follow her work HERE and follow her on Instagram. 

For episode 61 of The School of Unlearning podcast we sit down with podcast producer and filmmaker, Jackson Kroopf to explore how we can all foster better friendships as adults. Our first memories and some of the most influential relationships growing up are friendships and as we grow older, friendships prove to be even more essential than we may have realized. COVID and social media have changed the landscape for how we interact with each other and our friendships in adulthood are in major need of a reframe.

In this podcast, we explore: 

• The richness and value of friendships in adulthood
• The importance of community and emotional support and how this comes in various forms in adulthood
• New friends and how they hit differently than old friends
• How old friends bring up nostalgia and belonging, they form a map of our lives 
• How to address rupture in friendships 
• How our relational patterns or attachment styles show up in friendships
• Friendships in all forms of intensities and make ups, ones that allow for idle time and ones that can also allow for spontaneity 
• The value of low touch points with friends 
• How hosting and gathering will keep us healthy and connected

To learn more about Jackson, click here to visit his website and follow them on social media.

Elisa Haggarty is a Conscious Leadership Coach who works with executives and teams to shift the way people relate and collaborate through radical responsibility, curiosity and emotional intelligence. You can follow her work HERE and follow her on Instagram. 

For episode 60, we sit down with Functional Nutritionist, Andrea Nakayama to explore the gaps in the ever present conversation around longevity and health. Andrea posits that storytelling, meaning and fulfillment are essential to a life well lived. Andrea is a prolific writer and storyteller in her own right, crafting a newsletter called, "Mending" and runs a book club called, "The Longview" exploring the intersection of storytelling and health and longevity. 

What we cover: 

• Andrea’s new terrain in longevity, meaning and the role of storytelling 
• Control vs influence
• Shift in perspective, a diagnosis isn’t a blame, fault overlay 
• Reimagining longevity: longevity, and a life well lived isn’t about length but about meaning, fulfillment
• The role of narrative medicine within health and functional medicine 
• Why pathologizing health is limiting and the role of storytelling in reclaiming health
• The role of interoception: how did this land and move within in me?  
• Exploring completion: how our loved ones carry on with us 
• Life and longevity, and legacy, and legacy can be defined however we wish to define it. 
• How longevity and storytelling have inspired Andrea’ vision and presence within the Functional Medicine realm 
• Why optimization at every turn Is limiting and draining vitality
• Connection has as many anti-inflammatory benefits as some of our top anti-inflammatory supplements
• Health and longevity has less to do with the things we take, things we do and things we measure 
• Andrea shares some of her non-food and health activities that feed our soul and turns us on 
• “Optimization tools are not appropriate for stabilization” 

Mentions: 

Andrea Nakayama website

Share Blackie: Hagitude: Reimagining the Second Half of Life

Spiritual Midwifery by Ina May Gaskin 

Elisa Haggarty is a Conscious Leadership Coach who works with executives and teams to shift the way people relate and collaborate through radical responsibility, curiosity and emotional intelligence. You can follow her work HERE and follow her on social at www.instagram.com/elisamaryhaggarty and www.instagram.com/thesoulpodcast 

Today we welcome Conscious Leadership Coach, Joyce Chen of the Conscious Leadership Group to the podcast. We traverse the land of wonder, and how to access it and what blocks our capacity to step into wonder. We also explore the role of a whole body yes and a whole body no as it relates to identifying and going after our wants, needs and aliveness. Joyce is a force of insight, wisdom and she offers much of her own personal journey through the lens of Conscious Leadership. This episode is for any human and leader seeking more congruence, aliveness and confidence to build an exquisite life. 

We cover:

• What a side by side, conscious coaching relationship feels like and why it's effective for both coach and client. 
• The role of wonder in a coach/client dynamic 
• How emotions unlock our capacity to step into wonder
• What a whole body yes is 
• The role reactivity can play in preventing wonder or preventing us from accessing a whole body yes
• The power of a pause to explore wonder and emotions
• Joyce reviews the five core emotions via CLG and what questions we can ask to explore their inteligence
• How a whole body yes opens up a landscape of opportunity and choice 
• Joyce encourages listeners to step into exploring what needs to change/shift from a whole body no to a whole body yes
• The journey Joyce took while at Meta in honing her interest and love for Conscious Leadership principles
• Joyce encourages people leaders and managers to really become aware of being in a whole body yes or no state, and the "reckoning inside of us" when we are out of alignment with our work 
• The role of the socialized self in development and how it can hinder our knowing and desire in adulthood 
• Our innate knowing and wisdom around what we want and how we can use sensations, pause and emotions to connect more deeply with ourselves
• Both Joyce and Elisa share their fears around life milestones and model stepping into wonder 

References:

Gay and Katie Hendricks, The Hendricks Institute

Whole Body Yes via The Conscious Leadership Group 

Peter Hawkins on side by side coaching approach 

Martha Beck 

Please click here to follow and learn more about The Conscious Leadership Group. You can follow Joyce Chen on Instagram @joycechen_coaching and here on LinkedIn.

Elisa Haggarty is a Conscious Leadership Coach and host of The School of Unlearning podcast. She coaches leaders and teams to step into radical responsibility and strengthen relational connection. 

Elisa Haggarty and Justin Mulvaney explore the origin story of their upcoming event, "Loving Challenger: A Playground for Radical Aliveness" which takes place on February 8th in NYC. If you notice a surge of curiosity and aliveness listening to this episode, click here to check out the event and apply to be in person with Elisa and Justin exploring big questions and practicing new ways of being. 

In this episode Elisa and Justin cover: 

• Where the idea of "Loving Challenger" comes from
• What the term "coach body" means and how this workshop on February 8th illuminates and shapes your "coach body"
• Who this event is for and how to know if you are ready to step into this Conscious Leadership playground
• Who this event is not for 
• The importance of being willing to show up and play vs sit back and learn 
• The importance of play and aliveness in coaching and life 
• The structure and container for the event 
• How exploring our emotional worlds will be a part of the event 
• Intentions for showing up on February 8th 

To register for this in person event on February 8th in NYC, at Fabrik, please click here. Use the discount code, "FRIEND75" for $75 off. 

In this episode, Justin Mulvaney who is a Conscious Leadership Coach and peer/friend of Elisa takes the microphone and interviews her on her recent experience at The Integrity Bootcamp with The Conscious Leadership Group. 

If you are seeking aliveness and alignment in your life and in the workplace, this episode lays out the pillars of integrity based on the work of The Conscious Leadership Group. You will hear how learning how to give/receive critical and appreciative feedback and the power of congruence are the foundations of integrity and aliveness. 

Elisa and Justin dive into: 

• Integrity is about energetic aliveness and congruence, it's not a moral or ethical. 
• The tenets of feedback via CLG framework
• Feedback is a gift and a pathway towards connection, learning and is also for the collective. 
• When receiving feedback, ask, "how is it true?" 
• The feedback that Elisa received that lit her up and also challenged her
• Justin explains how we can receive the feedback without needing to change/create/solve for the feedback, let it land. 
• "You've never met another person, you've only met your story of them." Byron Katie 
• What our "racket" is according to CLG and how we use our racket to cover up discomfort and vulnerability. 
• How feeling feelings to completion unlocks aliveness and creative energy 
• How fear and anger and sexual energy are connected 
• What a projection is and how we "x" out what we don't accept in ourselves and in others. 
• Congruence: your inner world is matched by your outer expression and how this "noticing and matching" is the foundation of aliveness and integrity 
• "We are either getting more transparent or more opaque." Jim Dethmer 
• What a "Whole Body Yes" and "Whole Body No" is and why this is connected to aliveness. 
• Elisa and Justin share critical and appreciative judgements for each other at the end. 
• Elisa and Justin explore the questions: "What am I willing to risk to experience full aliveness?" and, "What are you not willing to risk to experience full aliveness?". 
• "Coaching is only as powerful as we honoring aliveness in our lives. The Coaching happens outside of the coaching for everyone." Justin Mulvaney
• "Leadership isn't learned in the workshop, it's learned in the work." Kristen Lisanti 
• "The idea that the healing is here for the client is part of the illness" Deb Katz
• Click here to learn more about the work of The Hendricks Institute. 

To learn more about Justin Mulvaney, click here to follow his work. Justin is a Conscious Leadership Coach and a powerful force for founders who want to create and run business with aliveness and integrity. 

Elisa Haggarty is a Conscious Leadership Coach who works with executives and teams to shift the way people relate and collaborate through radical responsibility, curiosity and emotional intelligence. You can follow her work HERE and follow her on social media.

Today’s episode is the fourth in a five part series on relationships and we sit down with Somatic Coach and Practitioner, Sarah Coxon. Sarah connects the dots between her first love, archeology and the work she does now to help people reclaim their power through somatic practices. Our conversation traverses many spaces, and brings us all closer to understanding, and feeling empowered about the healing path. Unlike many practitioners, Sarah doesn’t hyperfocus on the trauma, instead, she uses practices and present moment awareness to address what is here now. Sarah offers us gem after gem and posits that perhaps moving toward joy and aliveness can be a powerful pathway to healing. 

• How Sarah’s background in archeology has shaped her worldview, and how it influences her work in Somatic Coaching
• The link between nature and our own internal growth and healing 
• Sarah connects the dots for us on how our leaps in technology have surpassed our own biological and psychological capacities to handle them 
• Context in archeology is foundational, we are always looking at the context to understand a finding or a pattern in history and Sarah helps us see this through the lens of Somatic Coaching 
• Sarah reveals how our lack of curiosity, largely influenced by our need to know and technology, has impacted our capacity to think, feel and stay connected.
• Sarah shares her insights on her evolution in coaching which started 8 years ago  and how she thinks of her role now in holding space for whatever wants to be felt/seen/expressed now
• Sarah uses a beautiful metaphor of embracing the tidal rhythms of life through grief and other complex emotions 
• How culture doesn’t teach self-trust, how early on we are told to trust authorities and this can lead to disembodiment and lack of inner knowing and trust
• How attunement is a muscle we must deepen for our relationships, and how it begins with our bodies and going slower than we think we need to 
• Elisa and Sarah discuss that even leaders feel fear and disempowerment and the sooner we can develop empathy for their experience, the closer we get to a more connected workforce

To learn more about sarah and her podcast, books and offerings, visit www.drsarahcoxon.com and follow her at www.instagram.com/drsarahcoxon 

Elisa Haggarty is a Conscious Leadership Coach who works with executives and teams to shift the way people relate and collaborate through radical responsibility, curiosity and emotional intelligence. You can follow her work HERE and follow her on social at www.instagram.com/elisamaryhaggarty and www.instagram.com/thesoulpodcast

In episode 55 on The School of Unlearning podcast, the theme of relationships is explored as it relates to rituals and physical spaces in nature. This conversation builds on a five part relationship focus and grounds us back in our bodies and in to the natural world around us as we find our center and slow our pace down, all in the effort to be more attuned to our needs and those around us. Our guest is Functional Medicine Practitioner and Clinical Herbalist Educator and Practitioner, Megan Liebmann-Gudat. Megan specializes in helping women in the peri-menopause and menopause stages of life and health through dietary, lifestyle and mindset approaches. 

In this podcast, we discuss: 

• How to zoom out of the singular obsession of romantic relationships and move into a broader view of how to manifest love in life. 
• Elisa and Megan discuss why the “eradicate” approach with chronic health conditions isn’t working or healing. 
• Megan shares how our dialogue with our symptoms and ailments is foundational and the most powerful way to embark on a healing path. Megan asks us to invite a conversation with our symptoms to the table? 
• How we can match our environment with our biology and what this does for our health. 
• Relationship to space: Megan highlights how we can cultivate trust to a space, which she says is often one of our first relationships.  
• Megan introduces a “sits spot” which is a space she brings her children to a few times a year to notice seasonal changes and shifts in the terrain. 
• We cover what an “access point” is in healthcare and how knowing where to begin is maybe the most important thing. 
• Pacing and our relationship to slowness help improve our ability to be present and notice what is arising. 

Top 10 Takeaways: 

1. When dealing with chronic health conditions, move beyond “eradication” and dip into curiosity and conversation with the condition and it’s symptoms. 
2. Being in relationship to the healing is more important than the protocol itself. 
3. Our first relationship to trust is often our relationship with a physical space, a home. 
4. A powerful way to be in relationship with physical spaces is to do what Megan calls a “sits spot” is an activity of mindfulness and noticing. Find one spot in nature and sit with it as the seasons change, draw and document what changes.
5. One way to mitigate the feeling of loneliness is to integrate other ways of bringing spiritual practices in, starting with nature or outdoor spaces. Realizing that we are not in fact alone. 
6. Megan reminds us that we can’t speed up nature, so making a practice of keeping seasonal journal for your surrounding environment is a powerful way to bring presence into your life. This practice slows us down. 
7. Take what you think you can do and divide it in two and take what you think you need and times it by 3. 
8. Megan on embracing slowness: a major theme from all of the relationship podcasts so far has been pacing. And, Megan doubles down on how our pacing impacts our ability to connection. 
9. Attunement matters when we consider how to shift our relationship to health, and this begins with a slowing down. 
10. Access point is everything for practitioners of health and change. And, the access point is figuring out where the person is willing to shift, and that begins the great conversation and practice of healing. 

Follow Megan on Instagram at @meganliebmann_ and for more on her body of work, visit www.amethystandrose.com

Elisa Haggarty is a Conscious Leadership Coach who works with executives and teams to shift the way people relate and collaborate through radical responsibility, curiosity and emotional intelligence. You can follow her work HERE and follow her on social at www.instagram.com/elisamaryhaggarty and www.instagram.com/thesoulpodcast

Today’s episode is the second in a five part series on relationships. Our guest and thought partner in this conversation is Kristen Lisanti who coaches and trains transformational leaders. After 20 years of cultivating healthy, high-performing cultures in organizations around the world, she now builds the capabilities of her clients to do the same. Kristen hosts Radiant Leader, a community of practice for transformational leaders, and immersive leadership development retreats and programs, including her mindful leadership cohort, Momentum. She lives outside New York City.

This is one of my favorite conversations on the podcast yet - and it’s an exploration of the human experience and the beauty of how our work can be fuel for our growth - and that in seeing work and career evolution as a pathway towards personal ascension and radical acceptance, we are never not in learning mode. Kristen walks us through her new framework for the 3 traps that keep leaders stuck in transitional leadership and how we use attunement and self-awareness to avoid these traps and step into the dynamic conversation of transformational leadership. 

Top 10 Take aways: 

1. We exist in relationship to one another  - we are always interbeing and interbecoming. 
2. We do not change other people. The only thing we can do is work on and within ourselves. 
3. The 3 traps of transactional leadership are 1. The Compliant Trap. 2. The Controlling Trap and 3. The Knowing Trap. 
4. Transformational leadership has nothing to do with your role or seniority and everything to do with relating to a purposeful vision and creating conditions for the team to achieve that vision. 
5. Attuning ourselves and the people around us is essential for transformational leadership. 
6. Change is not a sprint. Change is not a marathon. Change is infinite. 
7. The case for efficiency and effectiveness is slowing down. 
8.  “Perfectionism is not perfection. Perfect is not a thing. Completeness is not a thing. Everything is always iterating and evolving forever.”
9. STOP, a classic mindfulness practice helps us move away from reactivity and creates space - in turn, opening us up the option of choice. 
10. Check in with yourself - are you in a story that you didn’t write? 

Follow Kristen at @kristenlisanti and @radiantleader.co and for more on her body of work, visit www.kristenlisanti.com

Elisa Haggarty is a Conscious Leadership Coach who works with executives and teams to shift the way people relate and collaborate through radical responsibility, curiosity and emotional intelligence. You can follow her work at www.instagram.com/elisamaryhaggarty and www.instagram.com/thesoulpodcast

This is a special tribute to my late father, Jim Haggarty. Dad passed away on November 2nd 2022 after a valiant battle with Benson's Syndrome, a visual variant of Dementia. 

Tune into to hear Elisa celebrate her father and learn more about the man who left quite the mark on the people around him. 

"Dad was one of one, a singular force of love and I’m so grateful to have been his daughter." 

Elisa Haggarty is a Conscious Leadership Coach who works with executives and teams to shift the way people relate and collaborate through radical responsibility, curiosity and emotional intelligence. You can follow her work at www.instagram.com/elisamaryhaggarty and www.instagram.com/thesoulpodcast

This is the first episode in a five part series on relationships and we begin with an in depth look at relational rupture & repair with Somatic Therapist and Relational Psychotherapist, Jordan Dann. 

"The best thing we get to do on this planet is be in relationship. And it’s the only thing we aren’t taught how to do.” Jordan Dann

Covering a wide array of topics and tools within rupture & repair, Jordan Dann provides insight into attainment, slowing down, the role of a therapist and client - and how we can begin to reimagine conflict as not a barrier, but as a bridge to connection. 

Here are the top 10 take aways from this beautifully insightful conversation: 

1. Attunement begins with being present. 
2. Most people’s idea of slow is still really fast. Going slower, at quarter speed at any activity, opens up the landscape of choice. 
3. A bid is a reach for connection. When we miss bids of attention, this is when ruptures occur. The Gottmans say that couples who are masterful at rupture and repair cycles, have 80% satisfaction and wellbeing in their relationships. 
4. "You have to allow the repair to be a singular event, and not another log on the bonfire of resentment. Your reception and “thank you” and being able to fully let it go and move forward is as important as saying, 'I’m sorry.'" Jordan Dann
5. Our attachment system is really forgiving. Ed Tronick cites in his research that we only need to be in attunement 20-30% of the time. Our attachment system is really forgiving in that respect. 
6. All conflict is in essence, an objection over difference.
7. "Until you understand what's running the show, you aren’t running the show, your unconscious is. Explore the enmeshment of your origin family and how a lack of differentiation is impacting your ruptures." Jordan Dann
8. BRING play and laughter more into the rupture and repair cycle: couples lay down on the ground while arguing, it helps de escalate the issue. When repairs go well, we can celebrate with each other. This is how you create a story about how you fight, if you celebrate and review the success of it. 
9. We need models of health relationships, of ones who have ruptures and repair. We spend far too much time commiserating vs seeking out and being with others who repair well. 
10. Specific appreciation is essential. And in order to be specific, we must be present and attuned. 

For more on Jordan's work, follow her on Instagram www.instagram.com/jordandann and check out her offerings at www.jordandann.com 

References: 

Ed Tronick research: "The Still Face Experiment" 

The Gottman Institute

Elisa Haggarty is a Conscious Leadership Coach who works with executives and teams to shift the way people relate and collaborate through radical responsibility, curiosity and emotional intelligence. You can follow her work at www.instagram.com/elisamaryhaggarty and www.instagram.com/thesoulpodcast

A solo episode with Elisa who shares her insights and own unlearning about running a podcast. 

You'll hear a review of top quotes from guests and also a preview of what is to come with a new series on Relationships coming soon. 

“I am unlearning that I always know in the moment what is good or bad. The present is always changing our stories about the past. We have the ability to change the past because we have a different relationship with it, based on our present day." Connor Carrick, Episode 1 

“Unlearning is the ultimate act of humility for me. It is the surrender to the fact that everything and everyone is a teacher, and everyone and everything is a student.” Claude Silver, Episode 15 

"What I feel when I hear the word unlearning, I feel a relief, a softening, a permission. And, what I think about it is that if we have some intact culture and some experience at all with elder-hood, and what it may be to be near someone who are true elders, or many people or who are true elders, there wouldn’t be so much we have to unlearn, we could trust the learning that we did." Kimberly Ann Johnson, Episode 22

"Unlearning in degrees matters." Kate Fagan

And, Elisa previews an upcoming episode with Jordan Dann which will be released on June 13th. 

Elisa Haggarty is a Conscious Leadership Coach who works with executives and teams to create more collaborative and radical responsible leaders in the workplace. Follow her podcast at @thesoulpodcast and @elisamaryhaggarty 

www.elisamaryhaggarty.com 

In our first ever podcast swap, I sit down with Ed Haynes, a Crossfit and Performance Coach based in Hong Kong. Ed interviews me and I interview him in this candid conversation where we discuss unlearning some of our biggest roadblocks around people pleasing, growth mindset and how to better connect with people. 

In this episode, we cover: 

• Elisa's origin story of unlearning
• How this podcast came to be
• What Ed is currently unlearning about people pleasing and boundaries 
• The important of learning to sit with silence and space within conversations 
• How Ed uses growth mindset
• Can growth come within our comfort zone?
• Why being calm isn't necessarily the goal or a sign of a regulated nervous system
• How to work with stress 
• How to help clients work through emotions and glean the insights they bring 
• How Ed has used mindset and fitness to grow 
• How defensiveness is the first sign of war
• How to know what a full body yes and full body no sounds like 
• How much do we really need to work within a given week? What comes up when we have easier/lighter workload days?

To learn more about Ed click here.

Subscribe to Ed's podcast, "The Process Podcast" by clicking here. 

Elisa Haggarty is a Conscious Leadership Coach who helps leaders and team break drama patterns and form a more emotionally attuned world that leads to connection and innovation. To learn more about her, click here. 

What is life anyway? What makes life good? What brings us alive? Who said we need a 5 year plan anyway? 

Today, I press record in a spontaneous moment of breaking patterns, unlearning perfection and tackle what's top of mind for me. 

Join me in this 7 minute podcast!

Take aways: 

• How the pressure we put on ourselves to create a meaningful/perfect life suffocates us and robs us of what life is here to show us
• It's a big deal to be alive on this planet 
• How our phones take us elsewhere, never fully here in the moment
• Be more awkward
• Compliment people more
• Pet more dogs who seem eager 
• Relax into your life instead of trying to build an ideal life
• Spark conversation with strangers in life 
• When you can, make eye contact with strangers - it makes a big difference 
• In a society that stresses autonomy and control, we may not have as much control as we think
• Following the breadcrumbs help heighten attention to your needs and what the world is giving you

Elisa Haggarty is a Conscious Leadership Coach and a cat mom who finds joy in noticing what's beautiful and sharing it. You can learn more about her work here. 

• Avi's entrance to hot/cold contract and breath-work
• The benefits of embracing breath-work consciously 
• Why long slow exhales help us regulate and feel more grounded 
• What NBA superstars like Steph Curry and Lebron James are using the breath to level up their performance during timeouts 
• What overlap we see in the corporate world and sports organizations in leadership 

To learn more about Avi, visit his site at www.avigreenberg.com and follow him on IG @avilu 

Elisa Haggarty is a Conscious Leadership Coach who helps leaders and teams break relational drama patters through play and curiosity. 

To learn more about her work, visit www.elisamaryhaggarty.com

How is emotional literacy different than emotional intelligence? Why do we need both? Have you ever had the inkling that you may play some part in the relational drama you see unfolding at work or in relationships? Today on the podcast, we welcome Conscious Leadership and Executive Coach, Justin Mulvaney. Justin shares his origin story into coaching and the deep work he is doing on his end to play with the principles of Conscious Leadership. This episode is for anyone looking to better understand emotional intelligence and how to take radical responsibility for their lives.

Today we cover: 

• Justin’s early influences in nature and key influences
• The journey from tech industry to coaching 
• Why Justin chose The Conscious Leadership Group as the method he wanted to embrace and learn 
• What has changed Justin the most throughout his training with CLG and coaching clients over the past few years
• How Justin defines emotional intelligence 
• How and why the journey of embracing consciousness is messy and scary at times 
• How to examine reactive patterns and beliefs 
• How to feel your feelings to completion 

Justin Mulvaney is a conscious leadership and executive coach who helps leaders and leadership teams become more conscious, connected, and effective. He helps founders and leaders in technology and corporate environments identify and shift the patterns that hold them back and discover new ways of living and leading.

To learn more about Justin, click here: https://justinmulvaney.co

To learn more about Elisa and her work, visit www.elisamaryhaggarty.com and follow her on Instagram @thesoulpodcast and @elisamaryhaggarty 

In this episode, Dr. Gay Hendrick brings his life and professional wisdom to the podcast and shows us how we can turn criticism into creativity. In one of the more powerful podcast episodes I've ever recorded, Gay helps empower us to understand that beyond name, form, career - we are pure consciousness and helps us understand how taking responsibility for our thoughts and habits can change our lives. Gay shares his breakthroughs early on in life and helps us connect the dots between generational trauma - and, what we can do about creating new generational patterns. 

Gay Hendricks, Ph.D., has been a leader in the fields of relationship transformation and bodymind therapies for more than 45 years. After earning his Ph.D. in counseling psychology from Stanford, Gay served as professor of Counseling Psychology at the University of Colorado for 21 years. He has written more than 40 books, including bestsellers such as Five Wishes, The Big Leap and Conscious Loving (co-authored with his co-author and mate for more than 35 years, Dr. Kathlyn Hendricks), both used as a primary text in universities around the world. His latest book, The Genius Zones and explores his breakthrough process to end negative thinking and live in true creativity.

Today we cover: 

• Gay’s early life influences, including his grandparents and how the months prior to his birth influenced his relationship to emotions, food and self. 
• Gay’s encounter with Ram Das in his early 20’s and how this planted seeds for continued growth 
• How Gay defines enlightenment 
• Gay shares why recommitment needs more press 
• The role of self-blame and criticism and how they color and block creativity 
• How we can nurture ourselves into creativity and expansion
• Why taking radical responsibility for your life isn’t about blame
• How taking responsibly is both invigorating and creative! 
• How do view each decade in clinical psychology 
• The role of our family’s generational trauma and experiences in our current lives 
• What congruence is and why it’s so important for aliveness
• Why emotions are essential for us to embrace who we really are
• Gay offers news ways to view emotions like anger and fear 
• What Gay is currently unlearning 

To learn more about Gay and Katie Hendricks, visit: https://hendricks.com

Elisa Haggarty is a Conscious Leadership Coach who works with leaders and organizations to break repeated drama patterns and create more skillful and joyful workplaces. To learn more about her work, visit: www.elisamaryhaggarty.com

Dr. Joan Rosenberg, the author of "90 Seconds to a Life You Love" joins us for episode 45 and shares part of her personal journey from childhood that inspired her to pursue emotional mastery. The desire for confidence, authenticity and belonging lies within our capacity to sit with both pleasant and unpleasant emotions and Joan Rosenberg PhD teaches us how to do that in this episode.  We review the Rosenberg Reset which lays out the steps towards emotional confidence and why congruence is so essential to our wellbeing. This podcast episode is ripe with insight, moments you won't want to miss and will leave you feeling more empowered to live life more fully. 

Joan I. Rosenberg, PhD, creator of Emotional Mastery™ and Emotional Mastery Training™, is a highly regarded expert psychologist, master clinician, trainer and consultant. As a cutting edge psychologist who is known as an innovative thinker, trainer and speaker, Joan has shared her life-changing ideas and models for emotional mastery, change and personal growth in professional and educational seminars, psychotherapy sessions and graduate psychology teaching.

https://drjoanrosenberg.com/joans-story/

We cover:

• Dr. Rosenbergs early childhood and how it shaped her sense of belonging 
• Why emotional confidence was something Dr. Rosenberg realized early on in life would help her wade through life’s ups and downs 
• Who her early influences were 
• The 90 second rule of emotions
• How we can make use of feelings and emotions 
• Why pleasant feelings/sensations are difficult to sit with 
• How we can practice the Rosenberg Reset to master unpleasant feelings 
• What type of pleasant feelings are difficult for people and why
• What a compliment really means and why it’s important to accept them 
• Grief and 3 recommended practices to work with it 
• The importance of congruence in our inner and outer worlds
• Why speaking up is the pathway towards emotional confidence 
• How and when Dr. Rosenberg recommends we speak up 
• Why insights usually follow expression 
• Grief: how to embrace the relationship even if the person has passed on 

Referenced: 

• Dr. Daniel Siegel 
• Katie and Gay Hendricks
• Dr. Jill Bolte Taylor's book, "A Stoke of Insight"  

Elisa Haggarty is a Conscious Leadership Coach and Organizational Consultant, click here to learn more about her work.  Follow The School of Unlearning on Instagram @thesoulpodcast. 

If you are confused about women's hormone health or what foods fuel inflammation, this podcast episode is for you. Dr. Soyona Rafatjah, a board certified Family Physician and the Founder of Prime Health in Denver, CO. joins us for episode 44 on The School of Unlearning podcast. We discuss her origin story and what fueled her to embrace the tenets of Functional and Integrative Medicine and why women's thyroid health is so importance for metabolic and immune function. Dr. Rafatjah helps us understand the power and importance of informed consent and how most medical science and pharmaceuticals are designed for men. Women's health involving stress management, toxins and dietary modifications are baseline for Dr. Rafatjah and this episode is filled with clinical gems.  

In this episode, we cover: 

• Soyona's origin story 
• Why Functional medicine is rooted in health outcomes vs sick care
• Why the thyroid is importance for women's health and why most doctor's don't run comprehensive labs
• The benefits of birth control for family planning
• Why birth control is being over prescribed and prescribed for the wrong reasons - how it can act as a bandaid for hormone health issues
• The importance of informed consent in women's health 
• What 3 foods fuel inflammation
• What foods calm inflammation 
• The root causes of depression and how to proactively work with brain health  
• How much protein a day women should aim for 
• Soy? What are the health benefits and risks and why to always aim for organic 
• What Dr. Raftajah is currently unlearning

You can learn more about Prime Health by visiting their website here.  Prime Health offers private and group Functional Medicine care to those in the Colorado area and select states for virtual care. 

Elisa Haggarty is a Conscious Leadership Coach and Organizational Consultant, click here to learn more about her work.  Follow The School of Unlearning on Instagram @thesoulpodcast. 

If you’ve ever been told you are too sensitive or struggle to work with highly sensitive people - this podcast is for you. Kelsey and I explore the wisdom of our emotions and how we can work with them vs react blindly to them. Kelsey Fox Bennett Boyd is an Educator, Brain Gym Consultant and Author. Kelsey has been working with kids and adults, with a specialization in supporting the highly sensitive, for over a decade. In this podcast episode we introduce concepts like emotional regulation, bi-lateral stimulation and help make a case for highly sensitive people. Kelsey has written a book called, Arya & Everyone Else’s Feelings, which celebrates sensitivity and empowers readers to release the weight of other people’s feelings and feel safe and protected as they support those they care about most. Information on the kickstarter to support this invaluable book is below! 

On this episode we cover:

• Kelseys childhood and how it shaped her inner world
• What being a brain gym consultant is and why we all need one
• Kelseys health and life challenges early on that led her to embrace the mind/body connection
• What it means to be highly sensitive and how to work with it 
• The power and meaning of emotions 
• How to create new neural pathways 
• What emotional regulation is 
• What Kelsey is unlearning 

Links mentioned on the podcast:

Kelseys website: https://kelseyfoxbennettboyd.com/

Kickstarter for “Arya & Everyone Else’s Feelings”: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/kfbb/arya-and-everyone-elses-feelings

Elisa Haggarty is a Conscious Leadership Coach and Organizational Consultant, click here to learn more about her work.  Follow The School of Unlearning on Instagram @thesoulpodcast. 

On episode 42 for The School of Unlearning I welcome with my twin sister, Catherine Haggarty. Catherine is a Brooklyn based artist, teacher, curator and co-founder of the NYC Crit Club. Catherine walks us through her days in childhood where she learned to make things from what she found and by embracing her imagination. We reminisce on our early memories together and the influence that our Mom and Dad had on us as found solace in art and in sports. It's a sweet episode that gets fiery at times as we discuss and challenge the narratives around art, education and entrepreneurship. 

This episode is dedicated to our late father, Jim Haggarty who lead with love and curiosity throughout our entire lives and to our Mom, who showed us what perseverance and enduring love looks like. 

We cover:

• Catherine's early influences growing up
• How Mom and Dad shaped and nudged each of us
• How language and words can shape and influence a young child 
• Unlearning how we box ourselves into identities too quickly and too soon in life 
• Why we should ditch the pursuit of "being good at things" 
• How Catherine found her voice in college and decided to pursue art school abroad in Rome, Italy. 
• The benefits for Catherine in not necessarily having a lot of models in the art world early on.
• Why making art will always be #1 for Catherine 
• What Catherine is actively unlearning these days

To learn more about Catherine's work, visit her site at www.catherinehaggarty.com 

Referenced during the podcast: 

Liv Aanrud, Artist

NYC Crit Club 

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Elisa is a Conscious Leadership Coach who works with leaders and professional athletes to empower them with the self-awareness and power skills to navigate change and break repeated drama patterns. 

Follow Elisa at @elisamaryhaggarty and visit her visit at www.elisamaryhaggarty.com 

Lauren Fleshman joins us today and it’s rich and warm conversation that carries an enduring message of hope for the future of sports. Lauren has coined the phrase, “the performance wave” which helps young women going through their menstrual cycle and normal hormonal changes to understand and even embrace the ebbs and flows of their performance. Lauren encourages her readers through her book to understand that if they stay the course and listen to their bodies needs, the best is yet to come. Lauren Fleshman shares what she Is actively unlearning and highlights her first book, which is a NY Times best seller, “Good for A Girl: A Woman running in a Man’s World.” 

Show notes: 

• How Lauren’s childhood in LA influenced her life 
• The most influential people in Lauren’s life and how they shaped her sense of self 
• What finding your “race weight” meant for young athletes and how the “diet culture” shaped hormone health, mental health and performance 
• What pisses Lauren off about the sports culture and women’s health 
• Lauren presents the notion of “the performance wave” as it relates to younger women going through natural processes such as menstruation
• Why reclaiming your body and running for one’s self is so important to Lauren 
• How the “athlete mindset” can both help and hider people post career as they find ways
• The role that capitalism plays in repressing feelings
• Lauren’s advice to women
• How Lauren defines unlearning 

Mentioned on the podcast: 

Kate Fagans episode 18

Books by Kara Goucher and Alison Diser’s book, “Running while Black.” 

Elisa is a Conscious Leadership Coach and Organizational Consultant, click here to learn more about her work.  Follow The School of Unlearning on Instagram @thesoulpodcast. 

Episode 40 on The School of Unlearning podcast features Michelle Cleary who is a licensed psychotherapist. Michelle brings a radical and essential framework to the world called, “The Shift”. Michelle has battled what she calls “disembodied eating” for much of her life and shares how we can all begin to rethink and reframe what society has called “disordered eating”. Her approach in “The Shift” is to teach practices and tools that empower people to come back to their bodies, to inquire and make friends with their habits and build a new relationship to themselves.

We cover: 

• Michelle’s path in facing adverse childhood trauma and how she experienced disembodied eating 
• How we have a culture of “departure” from the present moment and how that impacts our nervous systems and habits. 
• What disembodied is vs disordered eating 
• What role the nervous system plays in disembodied eating 
• How important co-regulation is in health and specifically in breaking patterns that cause harm. 
• Michelle’s radical approach to helping people embrace a new way of thinking and embracing their eating habits. It all begins with a return to the self, the body - a coming home of sorts that allows each person to stand firmly in their power. 

References: 

“Good for a Girl” by Lauren Freshman

Peter Levine and his research in Trauma 

For more on Michelle and her "Find the Shift" program, click here: www.findtheshift.com 

Elisa is a Conscious Leadership Coach and Organizational Consultant, click here to learn more about her work.  Follow The School of Unlearning on Instagram @thesoulpodcast. 

This episode is a personal deep dive into Heather Younger’s rich and dynamic life experience and how she helps leaders and companies embrace tactics and skills to improve the employee experience. Heather leads with authenticity and staying attuned to the needs of her client and her audience. Heather is a force of good in the corporate world and brings her life and professional experience to The School of Unlearning. 

We cover: 

• Heather’s core influences growing up and how they shaped her
• Why Heather feels so strongly in fostering belonging and inclusion 
• How connection is the foundation for all speaking events and corporate success
• Heather’s shift from law to corporate people development 
• How Heather views leadership and employee experience in the corporate world 
• How Heather walks the walk - leading with presence 
• What role paying attention and noticing has to do with relationships 
• Heather’s advice on professionals looking to sharpen awareness
• What Heather believes self-leadership is and how she embraces this concept 
• The power of specificity in human communication and feedback 
• Why listening as a skill is the foundation for everything 

For more on Heather, visit https://heatheryounger.com/books/

Elisa is a Conscious Leadership Coach and Organizational Consultant, click here to learn more about her work.  Follow The School of Unlearning on Instagram @thesoulpodcast. 

In this episode with Marni Blank, we explore building community, grief and how planning for the end of life can be empowering for individuals and families. Marni brings immense life and business experience to the podcast and openly shares her career pivots and how she actively works to define success and alignment on her terms. Marni is a certified Death Doula and sheds light on her 7 step process that helps us create a holistic end of life planning. 

Follow Marni on Instagram @beginwith_theend and at www.marniblank.com 

You will learn:

• The early influences in Marni's life that led her into the realm of entrepreneurship 
• Marni's previous work in law and how this influenced her decision to begin begin a creative and entrepreneur 
• What a Death Doula is and how Marni sees her work as helpful for individuals and families 
• How Marni had to unlearn what success was and find a definition that aligned for her 
• The business that Marni started with her sister, Willa in NYC to help build community and what she has learned about running a business with family. 
• Marni helps us understand why we would want to begin thinking about end of life planning and what her 7 step process is to help people get their policies and logistics in order. 
• We also discuss how planning for end of life can be scary but it is also generous in nature. Grief gets by passed for many when they are in the weeds of logistics and paperwork and all of us can make space for grief.
• Marni helps us understand the blocks that get in our way of end of life planning and different ways we can think about it. 
• "How do you want to be remembered? What does legacy mean to you?" 
• Marni shares her thoughts on how can mange and process grief 

References: "The Wild Edge of Sorrow" by Francis Weller

Elisa is a Conscious Leadership Coach and Organizational Consultant, click here to learn more about her work.  Follow The School of Unlearning on Instagram @thesoulpodcast. 

This episode is for anyone who is feeling a sense of unrest or dissatisfaction with their life and who wants to find more joy and meaning. Amy helps us break down why we desire what we desire, what actually drives us to pursue our goals and what key questions we can ask along the way to make sure we are living on purpose.  A favorite part about our today was the nuance that Amy’s work brings to self help and self development. That our greatest learnings and times of growth come when we contract and rumble with hard things - and how we can use that data to better direct our next steps. Amy helps us understand why “should” is a word that potentially carries a lot of heavy energy, riddled with guilt and tension. This episode is HIGH energy, riddled with insights and really really human. 

In this episode, you will learn: 

• Amy's early influences that inspired her into the realm of consciousness and spirituality 
• How Amy defines "living on purpose" 
•  The pivotal moments that helped Amy move towards being a spiritual being having a human experience
• How the constant need to control our conditions leads to "efforting" which can be draining and lead to burnout 
• How to reframe goals, that milestones can be helpful but the feeling of what we believe we want is always most important
• Amy encourages us to "think as far as it feels good" and then come back to the moment. 
• What it means to embrace Amy's mantra of "feel it out, don't figure it out!"
• Amy recommends us to "map our desired feeling state" 
• Amy encourages to strengthen our body/mind awareness - even the states of constriction as it provides great data for what we want and don't want. 
• "Accept it all" The more we can learn into contraction, the more we can sit with it and also use this state to learn and grow. 
• What Amy feels is one of the worst/most dramatic words is! 
• Inner critic? Learn how to make friends with the constant force of opposition with Amy's approach.
• How Amy defines unlearning :) 

Elisa is a Conscious Leadership Coach and Organizational Consultant, click here to learn more about her work.  Follow The School of Unlearning on Instagram @thesoulpodcast. 

The need for corporate leaders to up level their mindset and approach to work is more relevant and needed than ever. For episode 35 on The School of Unlearning, I sit down with Integrative Leadership Coach, Erica Zygelman. Erica has a holistic approach that challenges all leaders to come more fully into alignment, check their integrity and lead from the heart. This episode is a great resource for anyone looking to debunk leadership myths, lean into their growth edge and feel empowered to own how they show up at work more fully.

In this episode, you will learn: 

• What having a brand at work means
• Why first time managers and senior leaders need to know their “why” so they can lead more consciously 
• What key influences helped shape Erica’s life and career 
• What first Erica up about the corporate world
• The power of agency in one’s career growth 
• What key assumptions leaders make that make their work more stressful
• What being an integrative leader means 
• What advice erica has for first time leaders and leaders wanting to wake up to their potential 

Erica’s bio 

As an Integrative Leadership Coach, Erica is committed to supporting the next generation of leaders to achieve sustainable success by integrating principles of conscious leadership and holistic wellness. Through this method, she works to equip professionals with tools that shift the paradigm of success from what it looks like on the outside, to how it feels on the inside.

Erica has a 15-year track record of leading high-performing corporate managers and teams to build flourishing relationships, scale revenue, and deliver excellent outcomes for world-class organizations. She is passionate about functional medicine, personal development, yoga & mindfulness, and is inspired by international travel, live music, and nature. After a decade and a half in New York City, she currently enjoys exploring her new hometown of sunny San Diego.

Erica can be reached at www.ericazygelman.com and follow her on Instagram @ericazygleman 

To learn more about Elisa Haggarty, visit www.elisamaryhaggarty.com and follow The School of Unlearning @thesoulpodcsat on Instagram. 

Today I sit down with behavioral economist, professor and author, Linda Babcock to discuss the power of saying no for women at work. 

This podcast interview is for any woman in the workplace who feels stretched thin, frustrated by a lack of advancement in their career and afraid to say no. If you are an organizational leader, this podcast will help you understand how to strategically use your greatest resource by shifting how you allocate and reward non-promotical tasks. 

We discuss what an NPT or non-promotable task is, and why women are 50% more likely to volunteer for work that doesn’t advance their career. Linda and her co-authors propose tactical and strategic ways we can empower women in all positions to advocate for their needs by doing an inventory of how they spend their time, understanding the currency their company thrives on and embracing strategies to make sure they spend their time doing work that aligns with their skills and also helps advance their role in the workplace. 

Linda’s work is focused on understanding barriers to women’s advancement in the workplace and developing evidence-based interventions to promote a level playing field. She is the founder and director of the Program for Research and Outreach on Gender Equity in Society (PROGRESS), which pursues positive social change for women and girls through education, partnerships, and research.

Linda is the James M. Walton Professor in Economics at Carnegie Mellon University and the author of Ask for It: How Women Can Use the Power of Negotiation to Get What They Really Want and Women Don’t Ask: Negotiation and the Gender Divide.

“The No Club: Putting a Stop to Women’s Dead End Work” is available on Amazon, Barnes and Noble and wherever books are sold. To learn more, visit https://www.thenoclub.com

In this episode, you will learn: 

• What impacts the bottom line is business is how we spend out time 
• Why companies would benefit from developing their people and the core soft skills
• What a non-promotable task (NPT) is and how it drains a woman’s capacity to advance her career 
• Helpful tactics to understand how to say no, or even say “yes, and…”
• The power of the pause before making decisions
• How not staying in our zone of genius or even competencies is an energy drain for the employee and the organization
• 70% of companies believe that DEI initiatives are critical to business success but only 24% of companies formally recognized DEI initiatives as promotable 
• How female leaders can become more aware and strategic about how they handle personal decisions 
• How leaders can begin to pay attention to what a “Yes” feels like and how that is the foundation for being more responsible with human resources and time. 
• How understanding non-promotable tasks and doing an inventory of how we spend out time is very visible and further supports our capacity to direct career advancement. 
• How real change happens when organizations shift how they allocate and reward work 

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Elisa Haggarty is a Conscious Leadership Coach and host of The School of Unlearning Podcast. She coach leaders/executives and teams all over the world to shift their mindset so they can build high performing teams, visit www.elisamaryhaggarty.com

Follow The School of Unlearning on Instagram. 

For episode 33 on The School of Unlearning, I sit down with award winning researcher and author of 6 books, Donna Jackson Nakazawa. Donna's work in science journalism was influenced by early life experiences and losses. Donna's most recent work is all about raising awareness about the growing mental health crisis that our young girls are experiencing. Donna uses science, empathy and a felt sense for human suffering to translate stories into movements that spark change. This episode is for every parent, even aunt, every teacher and every coach who is raising a young women and wants to help support their mental health journey.

In this episode, we discuss: 

• Donna's early childhood influences and how they shaped a sense of trust and safety about the world around her 
• How to tell is the nervous system is regulated or dis-regulated 
• How stress switches on genes that dis-regulates the nervous system 
• What motivates and drives Donna to be a writer and a speaker.
• How we can rewrite internal narratives to work through trauma 
• How confidence is a backbone for healing trauma, to be able to sit with emotions and narratives and learn to rewrite them. 
• The power of narrative writing, which combines the past, present and future in a way that can heal. 
• Science is showing that in the fact of unpredictable chronic stress, things happen immunologically and hormonally in the female body that set the stage for depression that don't happen for males. 
• Doubling and tripling rates of female mental health disorders which are unprecedented. 
• The rate of female teen suicide went up 50% over the last decade. 
• 36% of girls report having a major depressive episode before the age of 17.

"Girls on the Brink: Helping Our Daughters Thrive in an Era of Increased Anxiety, Depression, and Social Media" is available for pre-order on Amazon, on Barnes & Noble. This book will be released on September 13th. 

About Donna:

Donna Jackson Nakazawa is an award-winning science journalist, author of seven books, and an internationally-recognized speaker whose work explores the intersection of neuroscience, immunology, and human emotion. Her mission is to explore the science of the mind-body connection and harness it for healing. Her upcoming book, Girls on the Brink: Helping Our Daughters Thrive in an Era of Increased Anxiety, Depression, and Social Media (Random House/Harmony 2022) is available for pre-order now and will be available wherever books are sold this summer). In this book, Donna explores today’s growing adolescent female mental health crisis. Anyone on the front lines of caring for girls today—parents, educators, counselors—knows that girls are more prone to depression and anxiety than ever before. Now we have the science to understand why. During the critical neurodevelopmental window of adolescence a confluence of modern toxic stressors are altering the female stress-immune response in ways that can derail female thriving. Drawing on insights from both the latest science and interviews with girls, Donna guides readers through 15 “antidote” strategies to help teenage girls flourish even in the face of stress, creating a new playbook for how we—parents, families, and the human tribe—can ensure a healthy emotional inner life for all of our girls.

About Elisa Haggarty: 

I am a Conscious Leadership Coach and host of The School of Unlearning Podcast. I coach leaders/executives and teams all over the world to shift their mindset so they can build high performing teams, visit www.elisamaryhaggarty.com

Follow The School of Unlearning on Instagram. 

For episode 32 on The School of Unlearning podcast, I speak with connection coach and author, Kat Vellos. In a world where friendship and community feel transient and so different from how any of us imagined our worlds to be, Kat Vellos helps us break open human connection with a refreshing approach and perspective on how we can forge and maintain friendships - even as they shift and change. In this episode, we cover how Kat came about the work of researching human connection, what she is actively unlearning and how we can more intentionally build communities and friendships that help us move through life. If there ever was a time where we all needed a reframe human connection and practical tools on how to intentionally build community, this would be it. 

On this episode, we cover: 

• Who influenced Kat as a young adult 
• How activism and social justice came to be a big part of Kat’s early moments of unlearning 
• Unlearning productivity is top of mind for Kat and learning the freedom to explore the question of, “when is enough enough?” 
• What role that leisure and pleasure have to do with productivity 
• Sufficiency as a concept relating to abundance 
• What successful friendship and community looks and feels like for Kat 
• The ability to know the need for connection and reach out for it without hesitation 
• The gift of reaching out and inviting a friend out 
• How we can build muscles for connection 
• What role generosity plays in making connections and friendships 
• How the pandemic impacted human relationships and friendships 
• Social stamina and how its impacted our ability to connect
• What would be nourishing, rejuvenating and connecting with the time and space we have in our lives? 
• Why anger is a normal response to disconnection and what our emotions can teach us
• Tips and tools on how to foster adult friendships
• Bringing intention to the ways we create invitations
• How Forging adult friendships requires creativity
• How "hyper mobility" impacts our sense of community 
• "If you knew you were going to I've at your current address for the rest of your life, what would you do differently to foster friendship and community?" 
• The role compassion plays in forging relationships in a hyper mobile world.
• Advice on how to not take things personally if friend hangouts don't materialize

References: 

Kat mentions the work/writing or Naomi Klein 

Devin Price “Laziness doesn’t exist” 

Lynn Twist’s book, “The Soul of Money” 

The Podcast, "Hurry Slowly", by Jocelyn K. Glei 

Susan David, "Emotional Agility" 

Kat Vellos is a connection coach and trusted expert on the power of cultivating meaningful friendships. In her former career as a user experience designer, she researched, designed, and advised on the user experience of countless flows in digital products serving millions of people at companies like Slack and Pandora. With the publication of her books, We Should Get Together and Connected from Afar, Kat turned her background in UX design towards combating the loneliness epidemic to help millions of people experience greater wellness and fulfillment through thriving platonic relationships. 

My favorite line from Kat is: "Productivity is about what you don't do". 

Books and events: weshouldgettogether.com

Work: katvellos.com

Twitter: https://twitter.com/KatVellos

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/katvellos_author/

About Elisa Haggarty: 

I am a Conscious Leadership Coach and host of The School of Unlearning Podcast. I coach leaders/executives and teams all over the world to shift their mindset so they can build high performing teams, visit www.elisamaryhaggarty.com

Follow The School of Unlearning on Instagram. 

For episode 31 on The School of Unlearning podcast, I sit down with podcast host and Mental Fitness Coach, Marc Champagne. Marc believes that we are just one questions away from a different day, and perhaps, a different life. We explore what drove him to use questions as a means to find clarity and what he has learned from his interviews of the world's greatest minds. Marc is the author of "Personal Socrates", a book where he examines the minds and core questions that drive the most successful and creative people of our times. 

You can learn about Marc on Instagram @behindthehuman and follow his podcast, Behind The Human. 

About Elisa Haggarty: 

I am a Conscious Leadership Coach and host of The School of Unlearning Podcast. I coach leaders/executives and teams all over the world to shift their mindset so they can build high performing teams, visit www.elisamaryhaggarty.com

Follow The School of Unlearning on Instagram. 

For episode 30, I sit down with Ksenia Brief, the founder of Breakfast Criminals and host of the Ksenia Brief Podcast. Ksenia and I really let loose on this podcast, we rumble with what it means to use social media responsibly and dive into what it means to follow our divine spark. Ksenia was born and raised most of her life in Moscow and found herself growing up in a world filled with red tape, judgement and consequently craved more connection and creativity. This podcast is like a warm cup of ceremonial cacao, rich and full of secret moments of goodness. 

In this episode we cover: 

• Ksenia’s childhood growing up in Russia and how her brief stint in Australia influenced her sense of self and ability to dream. 
• "Face Control" was a decisive way to control who got into clubs and who didn't and how this impacted Ksenia's sense of self. 
• How Ksenia has used and embraced food and meals as a way to express love and build community
• We wonder where music videos have gone and discuss the impact they had on our imagination and social connection as children 
• Ksenia's evolution and softening into self worth and remembering who she is beyond awards, social media.
• Why none of us can skip the step of compassion if we wish to break habits that don't serve us
• The role of responsibility in sharing stories and in spiritual teachings 
• The role of playing personas in our life to keep life and relationships novel and playful

"It's only hard when we try to be more than human. We didn't come here for easy, we came for evolution our soul was meant to experience." Ksenia Brief

About Ksenia: 

Ksenia  Brief is the founder of the award-nominated digital platform Breakfast Criminals and the host of the Ksenia Brief Podcast, focusing on expanded consciousness and entrepreneurship in the digital age. Named “35 Under 35 In Wellness'' by Wanderlust and “Top Social Media Coach” by Yahoo Finance, Ksenia is here to merge our inner tech (intuition) with outer tech (social media) for a world where you feel at home to share your medicine. She does it through storytelling, consulting and online programs.

She currently lives in a tiny home in the Catskills and can be found drinking ceremonial cacao at sunset.

Follow Ksenia's podcast, "The Ksenia Brief" podcast on Apple and Spotify. Her work can also be found on Instagram, @ksenia.brief 

About Elisa Haggarty: 

I am a Conscious Leadership Coach and host of The School of Unlearning Podcast. I coach leaders/executives and teams all over the world to shift their mindset. Together we move from serious to curious and from fear to love. To learn more about my work, visit www.elisamaryhaggarty.com

Follow The School of Unlearning on Instagram. 

Jordan’s Dann joins me for episode 29 on The School of Unlearning podcast. This episode is a deeply personal one, and Jordan leads the way by sharing how her childhood experiences have shaped the way she sees relationships and her work as a therapist. This is one of those feel good, wanna hug her through the screen and share with everyone I know podcasts - enjoy the conversation my friends. 

In this episode we cover: 

• How Jordan’s parents and early childhood influenced her view of relationships
• How moving houses so often helped influence Jordan’s resiliency and strength. 
• Stumbling upon influential people and theater helped open up a sense of belonging and connection to the body 
• The role of play in intimacy and connection 
• How movement helped shape our sense of self and community 
•  How Jordan landed in therapy after years in music and theater. 
• What somatic therapy and intelligence is and how to use it
• How presence and noticing influences the way Jordan works with patients and clients. 
• How to embrace the sympathetic nervous system
• Why we need to annihilate our need for isolated self growth 
• What 3 subjects Jordan would add to our school systems
• What Jordan is actively unlearning these days 

Resources

If you liked this episode, check out the book Jordan references, “The Body Keeps the Score” by Bessel van der Kolk. 

Jordan mentioned the poet, Marge Piercy, click here to read more.

About Jordan Dann

Jordan's work as a therapist is strongly informed by her clinical training in Gestalt therapy, Imago Relationship Therapy, and Somatic Experiencing. Jordan’s approach to working with clients is a strength-based-trauma-informed approach to support self-healing of the individual.

Jordan has a BFA (acting) an MFA (theater education) from Boston University and am a graduate of the Gestalt Associates for Psychotherapy. Jordan is a Nationally Certified and NYS Licensed Psychoanalyst in private practice. She works with individuals, couples, and conduct case supervision in New York City.  

Jordan is an avid content creator and I highly encourage you go check out her Instagram account where she shares informative videos and stories that are buzzworth. She has also been featured in MindBodyGreen, NewsBreak, and Psychotherapy Networker. 

To follow and work with Jordan, click here. 

To learn more about Elisa and her work as a Conscious Leadership Coach, Instagram. 

In this episode for The School of Unlearning, I sit down with the author, founder and CEO of Askinosie chocolate.

I first came across Askinosie chocolate via Shawn's book, “Meaningful Work”. I read this book and fell in love with his spiritual and thorough approach to finding a vocation and meaning in our personal lives. I immediately searched for the nearest store that sold Askinosie chocolate and bought a bar. I’ve been hooked ever since. 

This episode is deeply personal, a conversation between two people navigating grief, joy, loss, meaning and yes, chocolate. Shawn urges us to look to what breaks our heart in order to find meaning in our lives and in our work. 

In this episode you'll hear: 

• What core learnings Shawn had to endure at age that shaped his worldview on religion and grief.
• How important the space to talk about grief is and what happens when we don't have that space. 
• How joy and sorrow are inseparable and how they amplify each other. 
• The influence of loss and ambiguous loss in daily life
• How sitting with and moving through grief can build emotional confidence 
• The origin of Askinosie Chocolate and the values behind it. 
• What relationship driven chocolate means to Shawn
• How storytelling makes chocolate taste better :)
• The importance of space and alone time in finding meaning in life and in work
• "Begin with your sorrow" to find purpose and meaning in work.
• Why healing isn't a singular or a linear experience 
• What Shawn is actively unlearning in the present moment 

"Maybe if we combine our sorrow? Maybe that's joy?" Ross Gay 

Check out Shawn’s TED Talk here.

To enjoy direct trade chocolate made by Askinosie chocolate, click here. 

About Elisa: 

I am a Conscious Leadership Coach and host of The School of Unlearning Podcast. I coach leaders/executives and teams all over the world to shift their mindset. Together we move from serious to curious and from fear to love. 

Follow The School of Unlearning on Instagram. 

On episode 27 for The School of Unlearning, I sit down with professor and author, Luke Burgis. Luke recently wrote the book, "Wanting: The Power of Mimetic Desire in Everyday Life" and on this episode he helps unpack what mimetic desire is and how we can more intentionally identify and choose what we want in life. Luke helps us more consciously examine why we want what we want and nudges us through his tactics in the book, to remember what it means to be human. 

In this episode you will learn: 

• How a few core learnings influenced the way Luke grew up
• How Luke came across the work of French Theorist, Rene Girard on mimetic desire 
• What mimetic desire is: comes from the Greek work, "to imitate"
• Why our desire to mimic is innate in all humans and why it's not something we want to get rid of, but rather, intentionally embrace 
• Why it’s important to question what we desire 
• Why the drive to become a business "unicorn" is skewing our vision of success
• What role fear and threat play with mimetic desire
• How social media highlights and fuels mimetic desire 
• What role compassion plays in mimetic desire 
• How emotions like anger can spread the fastest on social media because, "the lack of strong bonds between people, allows anger to spread faster" 
• How we can view social media as one step in the direction towards connection vs the entire medium to fix complex issues
• How embracing silence is "spiritual distance" and why this is a key tactic in Luke's book, "Wanting" 
• How Luke defines unlearning and what he is actively unlearning in the business world

About Luke:

Luke Burgis has co-created and led four companies in wellness, consumer products, and technology. He’s currently Entrepreneur-in-Residence and Director of Programs at the Ciocca Center for Principled Entrepreneurship where he also teaches business at The Catholic University of America. Luke has helped form and serves on the board of several new K-12 education initiatives and writes and speaks regularly about the education of desire. He studied business at NYU Stern and philosophy and theology at a pontifical university in Rome. He’s Managing Partner of Fourth Wall Ventures, an incubator that he started to build, train, and invest in people and companies that contribute to a healthy human ecology. He lives in Washington, DC with his wife, Claire, and her crazy New Orleans cat Clotille.

About Elisa: 

I am a Conscious Leadership Coach and host of The School of Unlearning Podcast. I coach leaders/executives and teams all over the world to shift their mindset. Together we move from serious to curious and from fear to love. 

Forget what you learned, work is a medium for connection, play and yes, love. Click here to work with me.

Become a patron here: https://www.patreon.com/thesoulpodcast/membership

On episode 26 for The School of Unlearning podcast, I sit down with Dr. Andrew Hill. Dr. Hill founded Peak Brain Institute which offers neurofeedback, a form of brain training that helps treat depression, anxiety, ADHD and many forms of brain trauma. We cover Dr. Hill's journey into neurofeedback and his take on how we can show up for our brain function through nutrition, brain training and more. 

Dr. Hill is one of the top peak performance coaches in the country. He holds a Ph.D. in Cognitive Neuroscience from UCLA’s Department of Psychology and continues to do research on attention and cognition. Research methodology includes EEG, QEEG, and ERP.  He has been practicing neurofeedback since 2003.

In addition to founding Peak Brain Institute, Dr. Hill is the host of the Head First Podcast with Dr. Hill and lectures at UCLA, teaching courses in psychology, neuroscience, and gerontology.

All listeners of my podcast get 50% off their brain mapping with Peak Brain, go check them out in LA, NYC and St. Louis…and if you aren’t in those spaces, no worries, Peak Brain now offers virtual support with the same high touch care. 

In this episode, you will learn: 

• The pivotal moment that turned Dr. Hill onto the power of the brain’s capacity to heal 
• How his work in gerontology and many forms of psychiatric care have influenced the way he approaches neurofeedback and patient care 
• What neurofeedback is and who benefits most from it
• How to think about making small changes that influence disease 
• How anxiety is a normal brain circuit and how to rethink the way we frame mental health 
• The role sugar plays in chronic health conditions 
• Why western medicine hasn’t helped spread the word on the benefits of neurofeedback but why Dr. Hill is still motivated and hopeful for more people to get this life changing training

About Elisa: 

I am a Conscious Leadership Coach and host of The School of Unlearning Podcast. I coach leaders/executives and teams all over the world to shift their mindset. Together we move from serious to curious and from fear to love. 

Forget what you learned, work is a medium for connection, play and yes, love. Click here to work with me.

Become a patron here: https://www.patreon.com/thesoulpodcast/membership

On episode 25 for The School of Unlearning podcast, we are joined by author and entrepreneur, Terri Trespicio. Terri's new book, "Unfollow Your Passion" is a provocative inquiry into some of life's common assumptions. This podcast is filled with moments of unlearning about relationships, how we blindly inherent narratives that don't serve us and Terri argues that our best growth comes within our comfort zone, not outside of it. 

On this podcast you will learn: 

• Who has influenced Terri while she was growing up 
• How comedy has shaped Terri's voice 
• Why Terri maintains she is at her best when she allows for space in failure and growth
• Disappointing someone isn't the end of the world, seeking to always please is. 
• Why our innate drive for connection leads us to accept things that don't serve us. 
• Why its essential to decide who you will listen to and who you won't. 
• Terri's relationship with saying, "no", and why saying "no" doesn't always needs to come with an explanation. 
• How women have been influenced to always feel they need to be in a relationship, and why it's unfair to feel "less than" if you are single.
• What a "full body yes" feels like
• Why getting to a "yes" requires a lot of "no's". 
• Why saying "yes" when you don't need it, it's a recipe for drama. 
• Why drama is expensive in relationships and on teams. 
• Why "discomfort isn't a guarantee for growth, its a condition."  
• Real growth does not come outside of our comfort zone, despite what struggle/hustle culture tells us. 
• Terri urges us to expand our comfort zone so that we can live and work inside it. 
• Passion is an experience, not a state, it's not a talent and we need to stop seeking it all the time.
• Why our needy pursuit of passion is ironically draining us and largely, diverting us from the joy of living.  
• Terri on unlearning: "When you unlearn, its not a forgetting, its purposeful, learning is the acquisition of knowledge and application in the world, unlearning is amending, its what editing is to writing. Unlearning is the next step of knowledge."

Quotes from Terri: 

“As soon as you start to monetize something in order to legitimize it, you’ve lost it.”

"Passion is when energy is moving through you, where can you allow that to happen?

“The minute you get fixed and rigid about finding passion in one thing, you’ve killed your own vibe.” 

"Pay attention to where industry or the need to do a thing comes in. Beware of trying to sell or market every last ounce of passion you have.

To learn more about Terri Trespicio, click here. 

About Elisa: 

I am a Conscious Leadership Coach and host of The School of Unlearning Podcast. I coach leaders/executives and teams all over the world to shift their mindset. Together we move from serious to curious and from fear to love. 

Forget what you learned, work is a medium for connection, play and yes, love. Click here to work with me.

Become a patron here: https://www.patreon.com/thesoulpodcast/membership

We all know that the rise of technology isn't going anywhere. We also know that there is a spike in mental health concerns worldwide and in this provocative interview, former Google executive and author, Mo Gawdat shares his view on how we can shape the future of technology and AI by simply being better, kinder humans. 

In this podcast, you will learn: 

• How Mo's younger years growing up in in the Middle East influenced his worldview on religion, gender and problem solving.
• Mo's love for science and math growing up and how this helped shape his confidence and capacity to do meaningful work.  
• What motivated Mo to bring happiness to millions of people 
• How science and spirituality merge and compliment each other 
• How resisting life never equates to peace and happiness 
• The influence of Dr. Jill Bolte Taylor on Mo's worldview and growth 
• How the left and right hemispheres work together in synergy 
• Why computers and technology are already smarter than humans 
• The 3 tenets that make humans human featured in "Scary Smart"
• How a moment of alive connection with a stranger is intimate and full of life.
• What role neuroplasticity plays in our capacity to influence technology and how it shapes us
• What Mo is unlearning and how he thinks of it as a "coming home" 

Follow Mo on Instagram at @mogawdat and his podcast on Apple, "Slo Mo".

About Elisa: 

I am a Conscious Leadership Coach and host of The School of Unlearning Podcast. I coach leaders/executives and teams all over the world to shift their mindset. Together we move from serious to curious and  from fear to love. 

Forget what you learned, work is a medium for connection, play and yes, love. Click here to work with me.

Become a Patron! This podcast is and always will be a labor of love and community. Thank you for contributing to keep The School of Unlearning ad free. Our learning and unlearning never ends, so let's do this together.

Become a patron here: https://www.patreon.com/thesoulpodcast/membership

Bringing your whole self to work was brought onto the scene by author and thought leader, Brene Brown. Bringing your whole self to work has taken on many meanings, and each year, the layers to this concept keep deepening and expanding. In this podcast episode, I expand on what bringing your whole self to work means and also take it one step further. Bringing your whole self to work goes beyond sharing your hobbies, pronouns or personal interests, it means connecting the dots on your core influences growing up and how that has shaped your leadership style. 

In this podcast you’ll learn:

• What bringing your whole self to work means 
• How Brene Brown defines vulnerability 
• How the pandemic shifted the way we view work and personal life 
• What Google’s 5 year study, “Project Aristotle” found as the #1 ingredient their most successful teams have 
• How I think about bringing your whole self to work 
• How early moments of trauma and drama can influence the way we lead and show up in work 

About Elisa:  

I am a Conscious Leadership Coach and host of The School of Unlearning Podcast. I coach leaders/executives and teams all over the world to shift their mindset. Together we move from serious to curious and  from fear to love. 

Forget what you learned, work is a medium for connection, play and yes, love. Click here to work with me.

Become a Patron! This podcast is and always will be a labor of love and community. Thank you for contributing to keep The School of Unlearning ad free. Our learning and unlearning never ends, so let's do this together.

Become a patron here: https://www.patreon.com/thesoulpodcast/membership

For episode 22, I sit down with my friend and Somatic Experiencing Practitioner and author, Kimberly Ann Johnson to discuss childhood trauma, the nervous system and creating a world of coherence. This episode is deeply personal and essential for any person and any women seeking a vocabulary on how to better regulate their nervous system. 

In this episode, you will learn:

• How early childhood events and trauma helped shape Kimberly’s life and nervous system 
• How Kimberly sought refuge and confidence in academics growing up
• What Kimberly’s super power was growing up and what she believes it is now
• What learning/truth that still stays with Kimberly: “it is the tool or is it the person”
• What the process of writing “Call of the Wild” was for Kimberly 
• All about “Call of the Wild” and how its a call for women to move from prey to predator 
• What the nervous system is and what flight, fight, freeze and fawn are
• How a sympathetic response is helpful at times
• The ventral vagal nervous system and how it responses to safety and threat 
• How pleasure and productivity aren’t at odds with each other 
• Why we have been socialized to to avoid or weaponize pleasure 
• Why developing preferences on what we like and don’t like plays a role in our healing process. 
• How our puritanical inheritance of “put your head down and do it” isn’t service our capacity to enjoy pleasure 
• How the nervous system occilates and pendulates  
• What "clean pain" vs "dirty pain" is and how to apply them in life 
• What it means to have a reparative experience and how this helps us move on from trauma 
• What kimberley is actively unlearning 
• How forming a relationship with our elders can help us with our learning and unlearning

About Kimberly Johnson

Kimberly Johnson is a Somatic Experiencing Practitioner, birth doula, and postpartum educator who specializes in helping women recover from all from of trauma. In her book, “Call of the Wild”, Johnson offers an eye-opening look at the epidemic of “mind over matter” and a deep dive into how the nervous system responds to difficult events. 

Follow her at @kimberly.ann.johnson and her work at www.kimberlyannjohnson.com 

Please take the time to rate and review this podcast on Apple podcasts and share with a friend who would benefit. 

To learn more about Elisa and The School of Unlearning podcast, click here. 

About Elisa Haggarty: 

Elisa Haggarty is a Conscious Leadership Coach and host of The School of Unlearning Podcast. To learn more about her and her work, click here. 

Become a Patron! This podcast is and always will be a labor of love and community. I will not be using ads for my podcast to keep our conversations and time together focused and intentional. Thank you for contributing to keep The School of Unlearning ad free. Our learning and unlearning never ends, so let's do this together.

Become a patron here: https://www.patreon.com/thesoulpodcast/membership

On today’s 5 Minute Friday podcast, I dive into the world of boundaries. What they are, why we struggle to create them and how to start embracing the power of no, for your sake and for those around you. 

On this podcast you will learn: 

• What boundaries are
• Why babies and animals are expert at setting boundaries 
• What Brene Brown thinks of people pleasers
• Why it’s helpful for you and others to create boundaries
• Why role generosity plays in setting and creating boundaries 
• My top tips and insights on setting boundaries 
• My favorite quote from Kelly Corrigan on the power of saying, “no”

"Sexually, professionally, personally, saying no takes balls. Little noes prepare us for the big noes that define the major movements of our lives. The job we shouldn't take, the relationship we must leave, the deal that seems shady. No, finally, to another drink, no to abuse, no to getting back together again. No to extreme lifesaving measures. 

When we were children, no came easily to the lips. Wear a coat? Turning off the TV? Leaving your sister alone? No chance. But then we became civilized. We aged into self consciousness. Saying no started to feel rude or insubordinate, mean or lazy, withholding or dangerous. There's hardly a positive intention associated with no. Except self-preservation." 

Kelly Corrigan

Please take the time to rate and review this podcast on Apple podcasts and share with a friend who would benefit. 

To learn more about Elisa and The School of Unlearning podcast, click here. 

About Elisa Haggarty: 

Elisa Haggarty is a Conscious Leadership Coach and host of The School of Unlearning Podcast. Elisa has been a coach for over 18 years- from college basketball to nutrition to more recently helping leaders bring more consciousness and play into their personal and work lives. Her work is influenced by a philosophy and belief that, "life happens for you" which has been a through line for Elisa her entire life. Believing life happens for you begs the question, "how can I learn and grow from whatever is happening?". She has sought to find and create meaning from every chapter of her life and empowers her clients and teams to do the same. From her first heartbreak, first job loss, divorce and enduring the grief that comes with slowly losing her Dad to a rare form of Dementia, Elisa's rich life experience and humble curiosity is what allows others to connect with her, and ultimately themselves in a deeper way. She finds joy in making her friends homemade chocolate and can most often be found hiking or spending time in nature and has two adorable cats, Josie and Lou.

Become a Patron! This podcast is and always will be a labor of love and community. I will not be using ads for my podcast to keep our conversations and time together focused and intentional. Thank you for contributing to keep The School of Unlearning ad free. Our learning and unlearning never ends, so let's do this together.

Become a patron here: https://www.patreon.com/thesoulpodcast/membership

In today’s episode, we sit down with Lara Adler, an Environmental Toxins Expert and Certified Holistic Health Coach to discuss her journey of unlearning. 

Lara is a wealth of knowledge and in this podcast interview, we take a personal look into what and who has helped shape Lara’s work ethic, view on building a business and the role that environmental toxins play in human health, politics and the environment. 

More about Lara Adler:

To follow Lara, click here. 

To follow Lara on Instagram, check out @environmentaltoxinsnerd 

On this episode, you will learn: 

• How a few select childhood experiences shaped Lara’s view on business
• The influence of international travel on Lara as a young child
• How your friends and family are not necessarily your audience when it comes to your business
• The pivotal moments that influenced Lara to turn her attention to the nutrition and health world 
• Why Lara decided to focus in on environmental toxins as a health coach 
• What role environmental chemicals, obesogens impact weight loss resistance 
• Why Lara shaped her mission on educating the people so they demand chance on an industry level
• How Lara’s scrappy spirit was developed and how it influenced her ability to create and run a successful business. 
• The difference between being trauma motivated and empathy motivated and how they may show up in business
• How the “mechanics” or how of Lara’s work is rooted in trauma that continues to motivate her 
• How grief and loss in relationships have shaped Lara’s health and eventually, her growth
• The role mold played in Lara’s health 
• Lara’s evolution on perfectionism in the health and toxicity space 
• The importance of nuance in communicating science 
• What the Dunning Kruger effect is
• Why communication and context reigns supreme when educating or guiding people 
• “The best way out is through” - relating to grief or educating a tough work situation, is to be willing to move through it. 
• What Lara is actively unlearning

If you enjoyed this episode, please take the time to rate and review this podcast on Apple podcasts and share with a friend who would benefit. 

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To schedule a discovery call with Elisa on Conscious Living and Leadership Coaching, please click here. 

Elisa Haggarty is a Conscious Leadership Coach and host of The School of Unlearning Podcast. Elisa has been a coach for over 18 years- from college basketball to nutrition to more recently helping leaders bring more consciousness and play into their personal and work lives. Her work is influenced by a philosophy and belief that, "life happens for you" which has been a through line for Elisa her entire life. Believing life happens for you begs the question, "how can I learn and grow from whatever is happening?". She has sought to find and create meaning from every chapter of her life and empowers her clients and teams to do the same. From her first heartbreak, first job loss, divorce and enduring the grief that comes with slowly losing her Dad to a rare form of Dementia, Elisa's rich life experience and humble curiosity is what allows others to connect with her, and ultimately themselves in a deeper way. She finds joy in making her friends homemade chocolate and can most often be found hiking or spending time in nature and has two adorable cats, Josie and Lou.

Become a Patron! This podcast is and always will be a labor of love and community. I will not be using ads for my podcast to keep our conversations and time together focused and intentional. Thank you for contributing to keep The School of Unlearning ad free. Our learning and unlearning never ends, so let's do this together.

Become a patron here! 

Humans are designed to cohabitate, co-regulate and coexist and our current culture of individualism isn't serving us. In this solopod, I shed light on why we need to depend on one another and how we can begin fostering more belonging in our lives. 

In this episode you will learn: 

• How I define dependency 
• How changes in technology, travel, living and communication have influenced our sense of self and community 
• Why you don't need to martyr yourself after a break up
• Why we learn the most in relationship with others vs in insolation 
• Why it's not about a "survival of the fittest" mentality but one of mutuality and reciprocity 

Please take the time to rate and review this podcast on Apple podcasts and share with a friend who would benefit. 

To learn more about Elisa and The School of Unlearning podcast, follow her on Instagram. 

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To schedule a discovery call with Elisa on Conscious Living and Leadership Coaching, please click here. 

About Elisa Haggarty: 

Elisa Haggarty is a Conscious Leadership Coach and host of The School of Unlearning Podcast. Elisa has been a coach for over 18 years- from college basketball to nutrition to more recently helping leaders bring more consciousness and play into their personal and work lives. Her work is influenced by a philosophy and belief that, "life happens for you" which has been a through line for Elisa her entire life. Believing life happens for you begs the question, "how can I learn and grow from whatever is happening?". She has sought to find and create meaning from every chapter of her life and empowers her clients and teams to do the same. From her first heartbreak, first job loss, divorce and enduring the grief that comes with slowly losing her Dad to a rare form of Dementia, Elisa's rich life experience and humble curiosity is what allows others to connect with her, and ultimately themselves in a deeper way. She finds joy in making her friends homemade chocolate and can most often be found hiking or spending time in nature and has two adorable cats, Josie and Lou.

Become a Patron! This podcast is and always will be a labor of love and community. I will not be using ads for my podcast to keep our conversations and time together focused and intentional. Thank you for contributing to keep The School of Unlearning ad free. Our learning and unlearning never ends, so let's do this together.

Become a patron here! 

For episode 18 of The School of Unlearning podcast, I sit down with author and journalist, Kate Fagan. Kate and I discuss the state of mental health in sports, her recent book, “All the Colors Came Out” and her relationship to surrender in work and in life. Kate is genius at noticing whats interesting and creating a story worth listening to, I think you’ll love what Kate brings to this episode.  

In this episode, you will learn: 

• How the book, “What Made Maddy Run” shaped the conversation around mental health in young women and in sports
• How athletes struggle to lose perspective and get into flow state. 
• What Kate’s superpower was growing up 
• How noticing what is most interesting is Kate’s superpower as an adult
• How Kate feels about the state of sports media today 
• Why the conversion around women’s basketball “being more fundamental” is in some ways stiffalying the creative and playful part of the game. 
• Having swag on the court and off has nothing to do with being fundamental - both can exist. 
• How Kate has learned to redefine what quitting meant for her at ESPN and also in her Dad’s fight with ALS. 
• How strength and grace exist during times of surrender. 
• How sports can allow more space for surrender
• How the Las Vegas Aces are blending team dynamics and individuality for a more cohesive and healthy team
• Kate’s journey with listening to her body 

About Kate: Kate Fagan is an Emmy-award winning journalist and the No. 1 New York Times bestselling author of WHAT MADE MADDY RUN, which was a semi-finalist for the PEN/ESPN Award for Literary Sportswriting. Her first book was the coming-of-age memoir THE REAPPEARING ACT, and her third book, ALL THE COLORS CAME OUT, will be released in May 2021 from Little, Brown. She currently works for Meadowlark Media and co-hosts the podcast Free Cookies. Kate previously spent seven years as a columnist and feature writer for espnW, ESPN.com and ESPN The Magazine. She was also a regular panelist on ESPN's Around the Horn and host of Outside the Lines. Kate covered the Philadelphia 76ers for three seasons and played college basketball at the University of Colorado. She lives in Charleston, South Carolina with her wife, Kathryn Budig, and their two dogs.

Check out Kate and Kathryn’s podcast, “Free Cookies” and Kate’s books, “What Made Maddy Run” and “All The Colors Came Out”. 

Follow The School of Unlearning on Instagram at @thesoulpodcast

Become a Patron! The School of Unlearning podcast is and always will be a labor of love and community. I will not be using ads for my podcast to keep our conversations and time together focused and intentional. Thank you for contributing to keep The School of Unlearning ad free. Our learning and unlearning never ends, so let's do this together.

Become a patron here! 

In today's 5 Minute Friday solo-pod, I share the origin and reasoning behind my mantra, "you can't skip steps". 

I think a lot of process in building a company, in starting a podcast too, and my work in health tech start ups. Everyone wants to be somewhere they aren’t. We assume bigger is better, more is definitely better and it all should have happened yesterday. 

Not skipping steps seems tedious, but could there be a more thorough and simple business plan, could there be a more thorough and simple spiritual roadmap? 

In this episode, you will learn: 

• The power of process 
• The influence my Dad had on me at a young age in not skipping steps
• What skipping steps can look and feel like 
• How paying attention to the steps along the way can open up worlds and help you develop new skills 
• What soft skill Claude Silver says is most important for companies to embrace - hint, it's not radical candor. 

Please take the time to rate and review this podcast on Apple podcasts and share with a friend who would benefit. 

To learn more about Elisa and The School of Unlearning podcast, follow her on Instagram. 

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To schedule a discovery call with Elisa on Conscious Living and Leadership Coaching, please click here. 

Elisa Haggarty is a Conscious Leadership Coach and host of The School of Unlearning Podcast. Elisa has been a coach for over 18 years- from college basketball to nutrition to more recently helping leaders bring more consciousness and play into their personal and work lives. Her work is influenced by a philosophy and belief that, "life happens for you" which has been a through line for Elisa her entire life. Believing life happens for you begs the question, "how can I learn and grow from whatever is happening?". She has sought to find and create meaning from every chapter of her life and empowers her clients and teams to do the same. From her first heartbreak, first job loss, divorce and enduring the grief that comes with slowly losing her Dad to a rare form of Dementia, Elisa's rich life experience and humble curiosity is what allows others to connect with her, and ultimately themselves in a deeper way. She finds joy in making her friends homemade chocolate and can most often be found hiking or spending time in nature and has two adorable cats, Josie and Lou.

Become a Patron! The School of Unlearning podcast is and always will be a labor of love and community. I will not be using ads for my podcast to keep our conversations and time together focused and intentional. Thank you for contributing to keep The School of Unlearning ad free. Our learning and unlearning never ends, so let's do this together.

Become a patron here! 

In this solo-pod, I propose that we give workplace grief a seat at the table. Our identities and much of our sense of self comes from the hours and the energy we pour into our jobs and our careers and yet we barely talk about professional grief. I believe the more we normalize talking and moving through grief in our lives, but specifically in the workplace, the closer we will get to humanizing each other and improving our team chemistry and culture. 

In this podcast, you will learn:

• Tactical ways we can use retros and 360's to decompress after projects end so we can not only find closure but glean insights that will allow for growth and pave the way for more improvements.
• How language also plays a huge role in how people establish psychological safety and a sense of belonging in the workplace. 
• Why we shouldn't aim to have a resilient workforce because resilience doesn't necessarily equate to joy. 
• How corporation in Latin means, "body of people". 

To learn more about Elisa and The School of Unlearning podcast, follow her on Instagram. 

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To schedule a discovery call with Elisa on Conscious Living and Leadership Coaching, please click here. 

Elisa Haggarty is a Conscious Leadership Coach and host of The School of Unlearning Podcast. Elisa has been a coach for over 18 years- from college basketball to nutrition to more recently helping leaders bring more consciousness and play into their personal and work lives. Her work is influenced by a philosophy and belief that, "life happens for you" which has been a through line for Elisa her entire life. Believing life happens for you begs the question, "how can I learn and grow from whatever is happening?". She has sought to find and create meaning from every chapter of her life and empowers her clients and teams to do the same. From her first heartbreak, first job loss, divorce and enduring the grief that comes with slowly losing her Dad to a rare form of Dementia, Elisa's rich life experience and humble curiosity is what allows others to connect with her, and ultimately themselves in a deeper way. She finds joy in making her friends homemade chocolate and can most often be found hiking or spending time in nature and has two adorable cats, Josie and Lou.

Become a Patron! The School of Unlearning podcast is and always will be a labor of love and community. I will not be using ads for my podcast to keep our conversations and time together focused and intentional. Thank you for contributing to keep The School of Unlearning ad free. Our learning and unlearning never ends, so let's do this together.

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Claude silver is the worlds first chief heart officer for Vayner Media which has an ethos of “people first”. Claude’s only JD is to touch the hearts of everyone at the company - she is an intuitive, a feeler, and a spiritual being who gets to translator all of that magic into the workplace. 

I think you’ll find joy, solace and lots of love in this episode as we cover emotions in the workplace, building psychological safety and how soft skills like kindness and patience are the real superstars of company culture. Brew some tea, get your pen and paper out and enjoy this special episode. 

In this episode, you will learn: 

• How Claude’s childhood growing up in NYC and Santa Fe 
• How a game called, “Lead my people” with her Dad influenced her leadership style and worldview 
• Claude’s most influential people growing up 
• How Claude’s childhood and struggles in academics early on shape her emotional capacity and intelligence 
• How Outward Bound helped shape Claude into a leader
• What two core learnings remain with Claude to this day: 1. “It’s really not about being right, it’s about being better, about giving, about creating places where people feel loved.” and 2. “We all have this reservoir of untapped potential inside of us. What are we going to do about it?” 
• The power of our internal narrative for mental health and how it shapes the way we show up in the world. 
• Anything that I do that is not in love, that’s fear.
• How Claude always finds a way to see the light within darkness
• What spiritual practices resonate work for Claude 
• David Whyte’s work in corporations, and his book, “The Heart Aroused: The Preservation of the Soul in Corporate America” 
• The word culture comes from the word cul-ture, which means “cultivate of the soul”. 
• On being a human: “It’s the biggest gift of all, and every single day, every single hour is a surprise. It’s the biggest gift of all.” 
• How there is no business success without the people. 
• How emotional regulation, gratitude and patience are the soft skills that need more press and attention. 
• How self-compassion is a core unlearning and relearning for Claude
• “If companies could unlearn priorities, where they put their time and energy and heart, they would unlock the people.

Check out Claude’s podcast, “Emotional Optimism” on Apple and Spotify podcasts and follow her on LinedIn here. 

To learn more about Elisa and The School of Unlearning podcast, follow her on Instagram. 

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To schedule a discovery call with Elisa on Conscious Living and Leadership Coaching, please click here. 

Elisa Haggarty is a Conscious Leadership Coach and host of The School of Unlearning Podcast. Elisa has been a coach for over 18 years- from college basketball to nutrition to more recently helping leaders bring more consciousness and play into their personal and work lives. Her work is influenced by a philosophy and belief that, "life happens for you" which has been a through line for Elisa her entire life. Believing life happens for you begs the question, "how can I learn and grow from whatever is happening?". She has sought to find and create meaning from every chapter of her life and empowers her clients and teams to do the same. From her first heartbreak, first job loss, divorce and enduring the grief that comes with slowly losing her Dad to a rare form of Dementia, Elisa's rich life experience and humble curiosity is what allows others to connect with her, and ultimately themselves in a deeper way. She finds joy in making her friends homemade chocolate and can most often be found hiking or spending time in nature and has two adorable cats, Josie and Lou.

Become a Patron! The School of Unlearning podcast is and always will be a labor of love and community. I will not be using ads for my podcast to keep our conversations and time together focused and intentional. Thank you for contributing to keep The School of Unlearning ad free. Our learning and unlearning never ends, so let's do this together.

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We have conditioned and trained "bad" emotions out of us but the truth is is that a wide array of emotions add to the tapestry of our lives. Being literate with our emotions is the first step towards embodying emotional intelligence and being more prepared to lead with courage and presence. In this episode, I plant the seed that all emotions deserve a seat at the table. 

In this 5 Minute Friday, you will learn: 

• What emodiversity means 
• Who Dr. Jill Botle Taylor is and how her work speaks to the power of emodiverstiy 
• Dr. Jill Botle Taylor's TED Talk, "My Stoke of Insight"
• How life without a diversity of emotions is a flat place to live
• How emotions only last up to 90 seconds in the body - and when they last longer, it's because we have a narrative that is fueling the physiological response 
• How emotions are data 
• The next time you are feeling a strong emotion, ask yourself, "what is it I am needing right now?"

If you enjoyed this episode, show some love by rating and reviewing the podcast on Apple.  

To learn more about Elisa and The School of Unlearning podcast, click here.

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Elisa Haggarty is a Conscious Leadership Coach and host of The School of Unlearning Podcast. Elisa has been a coach for over 18 years- from college basketball to nutrition to more recently helping leaders bring more consciousness and play into their personal and work lives. Her work is influenced by a philosophy and belief that, "life happens for you" which has been a through line for Elisa her entire life. Believing life happens for you begs the question, "how can I learn and grow from whatever is happening?". She has sought to find and create meaning from every chapter of her life and empowers her clients and teams to do the same. From her first heartbreak, first job loss, divorce and enduring the grief that comes with slowly losing her Dad to a rare form of Dementia, Elisa's rich life experience and humble curiosity is what allows others to connect with her, and ultimately themselves in a deeper way. She finds joy in making her friends homemade chocolate and can most often be found hiking or spending time in nature and has two adorable cats, Josie and Lou.

Become a Patron! The School of Unlearning podcast is and always will be a labor of love and community. I will not be using ads for my podcast to keep our conversations and time together focused and intentional. Thank you for contributing to keep The School of Unlearning ad free. Our learning and unlearning never ends, so let's do this together.

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While we are all actively navigating through individual and collective grief, I introduce David Kessler's newest step to the 5 steps of grief: finding and creating meaning. This solo-pod is a primer to help you understand the message of our emotions, namely grief and anger and how to best process them for closure. 

In this 5 Minute Friday, you will learn: 

• How grief can be sneaky 
• What feeling the feeling to completion means and how this plays out in practice 
• What anger is here to tell us 
• How we can strengthen the muscle of avoidance or attention to emotions
• How grief is a sign that you have loved 
• How creating meaning during and after loss provides closure 

I recommend watching Pixar's movie, Inside Out to navigate learning the meaning of emotions. 

To learn more about Elisa and The School of Unlearning podcast, follow her on Instagram. 

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To schedule a discovery call with Elisa on Conscious Living and Leadership Coaching, please click here. 

Elisa Haggarty is a Conscious Leadership Coach and host of The School of Unlearning Podcast. Elisa has been a coach for over 18 years- from college basketball to nutrition to more recently helping leaders bring more consciousness and play into their personal and work lives. Her work is influenced by a philosophy and belief that, "life happens for you" which has been a through line for Elisa her entire life. Believing life happens for you begs the question, "how can I learn and grow from whatever is happening?". She has sought to find and create meaning from every chapter of her life and empowers her clients and teams to do the same. From her first heartbreak, first job loss, divorce and enduring the grief that comes with slowly losing her Dad to a rare form of Dementia, Elisa's rich life experience and humble curiosity is what allows others to connect with her, and ultimately themselves in a deeper way. She finds joy in making her friends homemade chocolate and can most often be found hiking or spending time in nature and has two adorable cats, Josie and Lou.

Become a Patron! The School of Unlearning podcast is and always will be a labor of love and community. I will not be using ads for my podcast to keep our conversations and time together focused and intentional. Thank you for contributing to keep The School of Unlearning ad free. Our learning and unlearning never ends, so let's do this together.

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Andrea’s become a force for good and change in the world of functional medicine, as a nutritionist who can help chronically ill people get better when no one else can. Her clinical skills have won her the attention of many world-renowned doctors, who consult with her on their own difficult cases. More than that, Andrea trains thousands practitioners every year in how to have the clinical success she’s had. She’s training an army of changemakers in the field of healthcare. Those triumphs came out of Andrea’s own tragedy when her young husband was diagnosed with a fatal brain tumor while she was pregnant with their only child.

I was first drawn to Andrea’s work over a decade ago when I was studying to become a health coach. Little did I know the course I was about to sign up for, Digestive Intensive would change the way I viewed healthcare, problem solving and begin a friendship that would see me through my own personal and professional celebrations and challenges. This episode is raw, it’s real, and it’s brimming with insight and vulnerability. Here we go. 

In this episode we cover:

• Andrea's most influential people growing up
• Key learning that Andrea carries with her to this day
• Andrea's , "we get to" to be what we are most passionate about
• How design and art influenced Andrea's thinking and creativity early on in life 
• How the loss of her beloved husband, Isamu changed her life and her career. 
• What Andrea's superpower is
• What drives Andrea today and her advice for working with unlearning 

To learn more about Elisa and The School of Unlearning podcast, click here. 

Elisa Haggarty is a Conscious Leadership Coach and host of The School of Unlearning Podcast. Elisa has been a coach for over 18 years- from college basketball to nutrition to more recently helping leaders bring more consciousness and play into their personal and work lives. Her work is influenced by a philosophy and belief that, "life happens for you" which has been a through line for Elisa her entire life. Believing life happens for you begs the question, "how can I learn and grow from whatever is happening?". She has sought to find and create meaning from every chapter of her life and empowers her clients and teams to do the same. From her first heartbreak, first job loss, divorce and enduring the grief that comes with slowly losing her Dad to a rare form of Dementia, Elisa's rich life experience and humble curiosity is what allows others to connect with her, and ultimately themselves in a deeper way. She finds joy in making her friends homemade chocolate and can most often be found hiking or spending time in nature and has two adorable cats, Josie and Lou.

Become a Patron! The School of Unlearning podcast is and always will be a labor of love and community. I will not be using ads for my podcast to keep our conversations and time together focused and intentional. Thank you for contributing to keep The School of Unlearning ad free. Our learning and unlearning never ends, so let's do this together.

Become a patron here! 

In this 5 Minute Friday, I argue that questions are more powerful than mantras. I discuss how questions remove us from the island, or illusion, of knowing and help blow up our narrow perspective on how we want things to be.

In this 5 Minute Friday, you will learn:

• The benefits of asking big questions
• How mantras do have some application but more often, limit our vision
• How fear and love shape the questions we ask 
• My favorite question to help open me up from fear: "What does life want from me?" 
• How asking questions paves the way for growth, learning, more play and more FUN!

My favorite quote on living the questions by poet and author, Rainer Maria Rilke: 

"Do not now seek the answers, which cannot be given you because you would not be able to live them. And the point is, to live everything. Live the questions now. Perhaps you will then gradually, without noticing it, live along some distant day into the answer."

To learn more about Elisa and The School of Unlearning podcast, click here.

Elisa Haggarty is a Conscious Leadership Coach and host of The School of Unlearning Podcast. Elisa has been a coach for over 18 years- from college basketball to nutrition to more recently helping leaders bring more consciousness and play into their personal and work lives. Her work is influenced by a philosophy and belief that, "life happens for you" which has been a through line for Elisa her entire life. Believing life happens for you begs the question, "how can I learn and grow from whatever is happening?". She has sought to find and create meaning from every chapter of her life and empowers her clients and teams to do the same. From her first heartbreak, first job loss, divorce and enduring the grief that comes with slowly losing her Dad to a rare form of Dementia, Elisa's rich life experience and humble curiosity is what allows others to connect with her, and ultimately themselves in a deeper way. She finds joy in making her friends homemade chocolate and can most often be found hiking or spending time in nature and has two adorable cats, Josie and Lou.

Quitting comes with a lot of shame and fear. We are all told from a young age, that quitting is weakness and is a recipe to let yourself and others down. In this 5 Minute Friday, I challenge that notion by sharing my relationship to quitting from a young age through sports and how more recently, I am actively unlearning the meaning and value of stepping away from relationships and pursuits that my body says no to. 

In this 5 Minute Friday you will learn:

• How society conditions us to think about quitting 
• How we have learned to disassociate from what our bodies are telling us, and then be rewarded for doing so
• The value is listening to your intuition and saying yes to what your body is saying 
• Going against the grain is never easy, but it's usually worth it. 
• Quitting, when its in the service of your health, is a radical act of self care, badassery and leadership. 

If you enjoyed this episode, show some love by rating and reviewing the podcast on Apple.  

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Elisa Haggarty is a Conscious Leadership Coach and host of The School of Unlearning Podcast. Elisa has been a coach for over 18 years- from college basketball to nutrition to more recently helping leaders bring more consciousness and play into their personal and work lives. Her work is influenced by a philosophy and belief that, "life happens for you" which has been a through line for Elisa her entire life. Believing life happens for you begs the question, "how can I learn and grow from whatever is happening?". She has sought to find and create meaning from every chapter of her life and empowers her clients and teams to do the same. From her first heartbreak, first job loss, divorce and enduring the grief that comes with slowly losing her Dad to a rare form of Dementia, Elisa's rich life experience and humble curiosity is what allows others to connect with her, and ultimately themselves in a deeper way. She finds joy in making her friends homemade chocolate and can most often be found hiking or spending time in nature and has two adorable cats, Josie and Lou.

Laura Lea Brant is a two time cookbook author, chef and voice of reason in the culinary world. Laura Lea has always had this strong desire to fit in and belong, more than her need to belong has been the pull to create a life that aligns with her core wants and desires. From ditching the conventional path of career, being a woman who grew up in the South to breaking relationship patterns, Laura Lea is vulnerable and honest in this conversation. Laura Lea also opens up in a bold way about the way social media has shaped her career but also about the boundaries she has had to create in what and how she shares her life.

In this episode, you will learn: 

• What inspired Laura Lea to make the big move from Nashville to NYC 
• How food helped Laura Lea navigate mental health and anxiety 
• Laura Lea’s most influential people growing up 
• How growing up in the South influenced Laura Lea’s voice and sense of rebellion 
• The pivotal moment when Laura Lea decided to unlearn the learning that “women in the south were supposed to be seen, not heard” 
• The signals Laura Lea looks for when she needs to make big life decisions and on following her gut 
• The core learning about materialism and intentionality that continues to stay with Laura Lea decade after decade: “it doesn’t matter how many times you walk into a store and buy things, you are going to want more if that’s your perspective about it. There will always be new shiny things.” 
• How Laura Lea has had periods of living to eat and then during times of stress, eating to live. 
• What Laura Lea is learning and unlearning about what a healthy relationship looks like. 
• What social media “love bombing” can look like (yes, this is a thing!) 
• How social media has influenced Laura Lea’s career and how she has had to unlearn what and how to share to her growing audience. 
• How assumptions on social media can be dangerous and what boundaries she is setting to have a healthier relationship to social media.  
• We discuss Cal Newport’s approach to social media and his book, “Digital Minimalism”. 
• How to start with the work, then build your following - and the value of consistency. 
• How we both think about self care and alone time - and how it allows us to show up more fully for those we love. 

In this episode, I mention the work of Cal Newport and his book, “Digital Minimalism”. 

Please follow Laura Lea on Instagram and pre-order her next cookbook here. 

If you enjoyed this episode, show some love by rating and reviewing the podcast on Apple.  

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Noticing what you notice is used in clinical psychology to help people combat anxiety and mediate mental health concerns. Noticing what you notice is a practice, a tool that can help anyone, anywhere, at virtually any moment, strengthen our most precious resource: our attention. 

In this 5 Minute Friday you will learn: 

• What Forrest Bathing is 
• What our most valuable resource really is
• A practical way to think about and approach mindfulness 
• An exercise to sharpen your attention 

I mention the work of Sherry Turkle in this podcast, click here to read her book, "Reclaiming Conversation: The Power of Talk in a Digital Age."

If you enjoyed this episode, show some love by rating and reviewing the podcast on Apple.  

To learn more about Elisa's work and The School of Unlearning podcast, click here.

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Elisa Haggarty is a Conscious Leadership Coach and host of The School of Unlearning Podcast. Elisa has been a coach for over 18 years- from college basketball to nutrition to more recently helping leaders bring more consciousness and play into their personal and work lives. Her work is influenced by a philosophy and belief that, "life happens for you" which has been a through line for Elisa her entire life. Believing life happens for you begs the question, "how can I learn and grow from whatever is happening?". She has sought to find and create meaning from every chapter of her life and empowers her clients and teams to do the same. From her first heartbreak, first job loss, divorce and enduring the grief that comes with slowly losing her Dad to a rare form of Dementia, Elisa's rich life experience and humble curiosity is what allows others to connect with her, and ultimately themselves in a deeper way. She finds joy in making her friends homemade chocolate and can most often be found hiking or spending time in nature and has two adorable cats, Josie and Lou.

Finding your voice gets a lot of press these days, and for good reason! Finding your voice is an unmistakable and even erotic moment of full aliveness but it turns out there is a lot of value in losing your voice. 

In this 5 Minute Friday you will learn: 

• The difference between fitting in and belonging 
• What losing your voice looks, feels and sounds like
• The value in losing your voice
• How the "corporate nod" is a sign you've lost your voice 
• What finding your voice looks, feels and sounds like 

Please take the time to rate and review this podcast on Apple podcasts and share with a friend who would benefit. 

To learn more about Elisa's work and The School of Unlearning podcast, follow her on Instagram. 

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Elisa Haggarty is a Conscious Leadership Coach and host of The School of Unlearning Podcast. Elisa has been a coach for over 18 years- from college basketball to nutrition to more recently helping leaders bring more consciousness and play into their personal and work lives. Her work is influenced by a philosophy and belief that, "life happens for you" which has been a through line for Elisa her entire life. Believing life happens for you begs the question, "how can I learn and grow from whatever is happening?". She has sought to find and create meaning from every chapter of her life and empowers her clients and teams to do the same. From her first heartbreak, first job loss, divorce and enduring the grief that comes with slowly losing her Dad to a rare form of Dementia, Elisa's rich life experience and humble curiosity is what allows others to connect with her, and ultimately themselves in a deeper way. She finds joy in making her friends homemade chocolate and can most often be found hiking or spending time in nature and has two adorable cats, Josie and Lou.

For episode 3 on The School of Unlearning podcast, I sit down with my friend and creative entrepreneur, Lindsey Murphy. Lindsey is the Founder and creator of "The Fab Lab", a TedX speaker, soon to be author and force of nature! Lindsey brings us along her journey of unlearning cultural conditioning with humility and candor. In this powerful episode, you will be challenged and called to embrace unlearning, which Lindsey believes is our birthright and obligation. 

“Unlearning absolutely is healing, period. But also, what unlearning is for this generation…If you are hearing my voice, watching this right now, you are called to unlearn now. It is what we are here to do. It’s why we exist, they did all of that so you could be here and do this work freely…and you not doing this work is you choosing more injustice, more unbalance, more devastation, more of what we all claim we don’t want. You must choose your unlearning.” Lindsey Murphy 

Show Notes: 

• The significance of being the seventh generation woman who has lived in her family household. (6:30)
• How the “soup” of Lindsey’s childhood shaped her worldview and sense of purpose. (8:30)
• How and why Lindsey decided to apply to FIT at the age of 12. (18:00)
• How Lindsey’s father and his 3 core teachings that helped shape Lindsey’s growth (18:50)
• Lindsey’s deep understanding and awareness of her ancestors and the work and sacrifice they put in order for her to how autonomy and creativity. (22:00)
• Lindsey’s definition of unlearning (23:00)
• The discomfort of healing and unlearning (28:30)
• Lindsey’s metaphor of a wounded animal and unlearning (30:00)
• How being trauma motivated influenced her cooperate rise and also her deep sense of feeling unwanted, no matter how much success she had. (35:00)
• Unlearning can be happening if if you aren’t aware of it. (38:00)
• Lindsey’s advice to her younger self (39:10-42:00)
• “We have the lives we choose” (49:35)
• Core learnings from Lindsey’s childhood that remain True for her (50:20)
• What Lindsey is still actively unlearning (58:30)

To learn more about Lindsey and her work, visit her here and follow her on Instagram and of course, The Fab Lab on Youtube.

What keeps us stuck in the rat race of production? 

Productivity has its roots in evolutionary, cultural and clinical worlds and in this 5 Minute Friday, I take you through some of the more systemic reasons we are driven to staying busy and productivity. 

By the end of this solo-pod, you will walk away with 6 insights on how to unlearn and rethink productivity: 

1. It’s not what you do, it’s how you do it. 
2. Your “to do” list isn’t meant to be completed, it’s designed to be refreshed. 
3. From a neurological perspective, your brain literally operates, thinks and creates better during times of pleasure and leisure. 
4. Culturally? Well, the fear you feel in not producing isn’t really about being productive, it’s about belonging. 
5. More is not always better. 
6. Pleasure and productivity aren’t at odds with each other, they complement and amplify each other. 

Please take the time to rate and review this podcast on Apple podcasts and share with a friend who would benefit. 

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To schedule a discovery call with Elisa on Conscious Living and Leadership Coaching, please click here. 

Elisa Haggarty is a Conscious Leadership Coach and host of The School of Unlearning Podcast. Elisa has been a coach for over 18 years- from college basketball to nutrition to more recently helping leaders bring more consciousness and play into their personal and work lives. Her work is influenced by a philosophy and belief that, "life happens for you" which has been a through line for Elisa her entire life. Believing life happens for you begs the question, "how can I learn and grow from whatever is happening?". She has sought to find and create meaning from every chapter of her life and empowers her clients and teams to do the same. From her first heartbreak, first job loss, divorce and enduring the grief that comes with slowly losing her Dad to a rare form of Dementia, Elisa's rich life experience and humble curiosity is what allows others to connect with her, and ultimately themselves in a deeper way. She finds joy in making her friends homemade chocolate and can most often be found hiking or spending time in nature and has two adorable cats, Josie and Lou.

Jill Payne is an Energy Management Coach, Corporate Speaker and all around badass human. Jill's authentic journey to becoming a sought after coach and leader in this field is inspiring and a true testament to what can happen when we use life's ups/downs to find purpose. 

In this episode, you will learn: 

• How to tap into the athlete mindset in order to show up fully for life 
• Jill’s non-negotiable mindset that has stayed with her throughout each chapter of life (10:30)
• What energy management is for Jill: Body, Focus and Dialogue (16:30) 
• “Life is meaning to be joyful” (23:00) 
• How Jill began to think beyond the physical world and into the spiritual realm (24:00) 
• The influence of Jill’s Mom on her spiritual growth and development (26:00) 
• How Abraham Hicks and Law of Attention helped influence Jill’s worldview and evolution (28:00-31:30)
• Moving beyond spiritual bypass: how our hard emotions have a message worth listening to. (31:30- 33:00) 
• Jill’s approach to handling repetitive patterns and how to take responsibility vs engage in shame/victimhood. (35:50-37:00) 
• “The path to what you want is uncovered in what you don’t want” (38:30)
• What does success look and feel like to you? “It feels like a calm nervous system. The word ease comes to mind, nothing having to force anything physically or mentally”. (41:00) 
• What Jill is actively unlearning:  on her fitness and nervous system regulation (43:00)
• How nervous system regulation is the new biohack (43:00-47:00)
• How Jill handles being a single mom and handling mental/emotional health. (49:20-51:00)
• Jill’s definition of unlearning (52:00) “Defining how she wants to be in her mind and body. There is nothing I am stuck with, nothing from my past gets to decide my future.” 
• The big message from Jill to you is “you don’t have to feel like shit”. 

To learn more about Jill, click here and follow her on Instagram @be_a_dime. 

In this episode of 5 Minute Fridays you will learn: 

• Why the daily small transitions are important to tune into 
• What transitions are here to teach us, to show us
• How to predict and prepare for larger life transitions (job loss, moving, relationship endings)
• Emotional confidence introduction

“When we trust that we are the ocean, we are not afraid of the waves” Tara Brach

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To schedule a discovery call with Elisa on Conscious Living and Leadership Coaching, please click here. 

Elisa Haggarty is a Conscious Leadership Coach and host of The School of Unlearning Podcast. Elisa has been a coach for over 18 years- from college basketball to nutrition to more recently helping leaders bring more consciousness and play into their personal and work lives. Her work is influenced by a philosophy and belief that, "life happens for you" which has been a through line for Elisa her entire life. Believing life happens for you begs the question, "how can I learn and grow from whatever is happening?". She has sought to find and create meaning from every chapter of her life and empowers her clients and teams to do the same. From her first heartbreak, first job loss, divorce and enduring the grief that comes with slowly losing her Dad to a rare form of Dementia, Elisa's rich life experience and humble curiosity is what allows others to connect with her, and ultimately themselves in a deeper way. She finds joy in making her friends homemade chocolate and can most often be found hiking or spending time in nature and has two adorable cats, Josie and Lou.

In this episode of 5 Minute Fridays you will learn: 

• Why the brain loves to create stories
• The role that drama plays in helping us avoid hard emotions
• Byron Katie’s method on questioning thoughts and stories that cause us suffering
• How to begin crafting a story that serves your highest self 

“We tell ourselves stories in order to live”. Joan Didion 

To learn more about Elisa and the SOUL podcast, follow her on Instagram

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To schedule a discovery call with Elisa on Conscious Living and Leadership Coaching, please click here. 

Elisa Haggarty is a Conscious Leadership Coach and host of The School of Unlearning Podcast. Elisa has been a coach for over 18 years- from college basketball to nutrition to more recently helping leaders bring more consciousness and play into their personal and work lives. Her work is influenced by a philosophy and belief that, "life happens for you" which has been a through line for Elisa her entire life. Believing life happens for you begs the question, "how can I learn and grow from whatever is happening?". She has sought to find and create meaning from every chapter of her life and empowers her clients and teams to do the same. From her first heartbreak, first job loss, divorce and enduring the grief that comes with slowly losing her Dad to a rare form of Dementia, Elisa's rich life experience and humble curiosity is what allows others to connect with her, and ultimately themselves in a deeper way. She finds joy in making her friends homemade chocolate and can most often be found hiking or spending time in nature and has two adorable cats, Josie and Lou.

In the first ever episode for The School of Unlearning podcast, I sit down with my friend and NHL Defenseman, Connor Carrick. We traverse childhood, pro sports in the NHL and Connor reveals what he believes to be the secret weapon for the next generation of athletes.

This episode is special to me as it bridges the gap between sports and spirituality, a less talked about gift that comes with playing team sports. Connor nudges us to curb our ego, shares his tips on how to settle into the present moment and stop pretending to be someone we really aren't. After 9 seasons in the NHL, Connor finally "lets his shoulders drop", a reminder he uses on the ice to help him tap into flow state so that he can play his best hockey. I have a sneaky feeling that whether you play pro sports or not, this episode will empower you to redefine success and find agency in your life.

In this episode you'll hear: 

• How growing up as the oldest of 3 boys influenced and shaped Connor's sense of success 
• How to move from "force to flow"
• How Connor embraces the spiritual side of the game and what that means for him
• How pretending/posturing is an energy drain
• How athletes struggle to balance the highs of the sympathetic and the mundane of the parasympathetic in sports
• The power of granting yourself permission to show up fully and lead
• Where the best version of you lives 
• Connor's definition of unlearning and finding agency

If you loved this episode with Connor Carrick, click here to learn/hear more from him. Connor is on Instagram @connorcarrick and has his own podcasted called, "The Curious Competitor" which can be found on iTunes and Spotify. 

If energy management and embracing the spiritual side of life resonates with you, please tune into my next episode with Jill Payne. 

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Elisa Haggarty is a Conscious Leadership Coach and the host of The School of Unlearning. 

Hello humans! My name is Elisa Haggarty, I’m a Conscious Leadership Coach and the host of The School of Unlearning podcast. 

I’ve realized that we spend the first half of life being told what to learn, how to be, and what life should look like, and the second half of life, rethinking and unlearning most of it. On the SOUL podcast, we will take a no holds barred look into uncovering myths and constructs around gender norms, sexuality, career success, financial security, trauma, and more. These conversations are forged with curiosity, reflection, and most of all, uncensored real talk - because unlearning begins with speaking our truth. 

The process of becoming more of who we really are, is a coming home. And as cozy as that sounds, it's also an unraveling of sorts--- of our identity, our belief system, our behaviors and even, our communities. Let's face it, unlearning can be glorious, exhilarating, sticky, and also... straight up terrifying. 

In my experience, things like unlearning are less terrifying when we do them together. These are the stories of the most curious and successful people I know, what beliefs they carry with them today and the ones they struggle to unlearn. Come ready to reflect on your core learnings and rethink social constructs so that you shed the life that the world told you to live, and begin living the one meant for you.

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Elisa Haggarty is a Conscious Leadership Coach and host of The School of Unlearning Podcast. Elisa has been a coach for over 18 years- from college basketball to nutrition to more recently helping leaders bring more consciousness and play into their personal and work lives. Her work is influenced by a philosophy and belief that, "life happens for you" which has been a through line for Elisa her entire life. Believing life happens for you begs the question, "how can I learn and grow from whatever is happening?". She has sought to find and create meaning from every chapter of her life and empowers your clients and teams to do the same. From her first heartbreak, first job loss, divorce and enduring the grief that comes with slowly losing her Dad to a rare form of Dementia, Elisa's rich life experience and humble curiosity is what allows others to connect with her, and ultimately themselves in a deeper way. She finds joy in making her friends homemade chocolate and can most often be found hiking or spending time in nature and has two adorable cats, Josie and Lou.